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Ok so what do we use instead?

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Meshtastic.

Face it. Not only is android or ios phones not yours but the very cellular network is comprised

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I like this. Where can i find more about this? Their site is quite sparse (mostly software).

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S2 underground. Ham radio channels.

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this is fucking sick!

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You mean sick positive? Meshtastic is looking really promising

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Threema. Don't need to use any info to sign up. https://threema.ch/en/

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They say "guaranteed" privacy. What's the guarantee? They guarantee to keep count of how many times I express my hatred for Jews and niggers!?

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my problem with a lot of these alternative services is they are just named so poorly.

wtf kind of name is "threema"

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Signal, maybe, but it may also be nsa

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Nope, anything you have to give a phone number to is not private.

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I dumped Telegram for Signal. Can't complain.

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Meh I don't think this actually means anything. If you look at the FBI docs on encrypted programs Telegram is the best in terms of not sharing info with them.

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What about Element, the app the Poal chat is hosted on

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It wasn't listed but it also should be really good in terms of security from what I understand.

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It's on Android.

Android can install a fork of telegram that secretly shares data with ai for keywords and you wouldn't know it

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...if I say 'smal penis' will there be a gang of Midget mushroom 🍄 penis men assaulting me shortly thereafter?

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Bullshit. I couldn't make an account without a phone number.

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Gab

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Bs. Mitm is a problem with them. They don't need to share because they have full access.