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I'll have access to a bare metal system next week to try it on but on a Oracle Virtualbox, it is next to useless to run unless you can allocate at least 4 processors and 16GB of RAM, and making sure the VM is running from a SSD drive. Windows 10 requires a SSD and at least 8GB of RAM to have a usable system.

I installed Open Shell and it appears to be work. I get the Windows 10 like menu when I click the windows icon but get the Windows classic menu when I hit the windows key. Also of interest is Open Shell doesn't know it's Windows 11. It shows Windows 10 Pro For Workstations on the start menu.

The TPM requirement is bullshit. I got it installed with no TPM chip.

It does not want to let you not create a local account instead of a M$ account. Took a few tries to get it to let me create a local account. For some reason it kept dropping me back to the "create M$ account".

The seeder was nice enough to give me Office 2019. Eh.

Got Chrome and other basic applications in without any issue.

Virtualbox seems to be ok with Windows 11.

Other than a re-skin I am not seeing anything else of significance that is different from Windoze 10.

EDIT 1: Jesus H Christ nailed to a fucking cross by a pedophile smeared in shit, Powershell 2.0 is not only an option but ENABLED. Even Office 2019 FINALLY moved past Powershell 1.0 and now is 5.0.

EDIT 2: Some "good" news. The Control Panel is still there but you have to hunt for it.

EDIT 3: Run a Tenable Vuln Scan and the .NET with it is dated back to May with plenty of vulnerabilities. Cannot patch because Win 11 won't take the patch. I have downloaded the "slim" version AND M$ has released the Insider Edition, so turn off your updates.

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I'll have access to a bare metal system next week to try it on but on a Oracle Virtualbox, it is next to useless to run unless you can allocate at least 4 processors and 16GB of RAM, and making sure the VM is running from a SSD drive. Windows 10 requires a SSD and at least 8GB of RAM to have a usable system. I installed Open Shell and it appears to be work. I get the Windows 10 like menu when I click the windows icon but get the Windows classic menu when I hit the windows key. Also of interest is Open Shell doesn't know it's Windows 11. It shows Windows 10 Pro For Workstations on the start menu. The TPM requirement is bullshit. I got it installed with no TPM chip. It does not want to let you not create a local account instead of a M$ account. Took a few tries to get it to let me create a local account. For some reason it kept dropping me back to the "create M$ account". The seeder was nice enough to give me Office 2019. Eh. Got Chrome and other basic applications in without any issue. Virtualbox seems to be ok with Windows 11. Other than a re-skin I am not seeing anything else of significance that is different from Windoze 10. EDIT 1: Jesus H Christ nailed to a fucking cross by a pedophile smeared in shit, Powershell 2.0 is not only an option but ENABLED. Even Office 2019 FINALLY moved past Powershell 1.0 and now is 5.0. EDIT 2: Some "good" news. The Control Panel is still there but you have to hunt for it. EDIT 3: Run a Tenable Vuln Scan and the .NET with it is dated back to May with plenty of vulnerabilities. Cannot patch because Win 11 won't take the patch. I have downloaded the "slim" version AND M$ has released the Insider Edition, so turn off your updates.

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Why is anyone still giving a shit about Windows? Linux met feature parity and surpassed Windows years ago. You can run Windows games on Linux with better performance even though the game's not running bare metal.

[–] • 5 pts

Yeah, these past 5 years have made Linux the best current OS and you can even run most legacy Windows programs on it, or just use a Win7Pro VM.

[–] • 4 pts

We can thank Valve for that.

[–] • 1 pt

eh there were other open source projects. But Valve surely was very involved, so they did speed things up.

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If this is true I'm finally going to get rid of win7.

[–] • 0 pt

I recommend Fedora KDE if you want an easy transition. That's what I finally ditched W7 for, and it's been a breeze. Lots of documentation online for it, and it's backed by Red Hat so it's rock solid.

[–] • 1 pt

I ran Ubuntu at work a few years ago. I just don't want to tell people I run Fedora because they might think I'm a redditor.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Which distribution of Linux do you suggest? Does it have universal one-size-fits all drivers? I saw the announcements for Windows 11 and I just want to be done. No more supporting a globalist company.

[–] • 2 pts

Ubuntu is very user friendly. I've never heard of one-size-fits-all drivers, but Linux is well-supported. Some machines, especially laptops, can be a bit tedious to install on. I prefer to build my own

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I dropped Windows 7 for Fedora KDE. Everything just worked driver-wise, but I'm using an AMD GPU. If you're using AMD or Intel graphics you'll have no problem at all. Nvidia will require you to install the graphics driver manually, but it's not difficult.

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Is there a windows 10 Linux clone?

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In my opinion the closest would be ZorinOS. (it is forked from Ubuntu) https://zorinos.com/

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Just discovered today that there is no fortnite support despite epic games supporting Linux. Grr

[–] • 0 pt

yeah bullshit.

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Care to elaborate?

[–] • 0 pt

Unless user knows exact syntax for terminal commands its a hard road-block using linux.

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it is next to useless to run unless you can allocate at least 4 processors and 16GB of RAM, and making sure the VM is running from a SSD drive. Windows 10 requires a SSD and at least 8GB of RAM to have a usable system.

imagine how much spyware is running on that system.

[–] • 3 pts

Any word on bypassing the required Microsoft account during setup?

I've only ever run a local account.

[–] • 1 pt

W10, you unhook the network while installing. Not sure what W11 will need. Might require internet to be connected while installing.

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with windows 10 all you do is create local account, then the next page is like, "are you sure you're really going to be missing out", and you click something that says "limited crippled access for plebs" and you get a local account

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In W10, I simply select local account, which is usually displayed in very small and non obvious text - but it is there nonetheless.

In one of the Linus videos, he intimated that option was no longer present. If so, that is truly bothersome.

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windows 11 ? I am 84 years ahead with my windows 95

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Windows 11: We're giving you more ways than ever to not be able to use your current hardware!

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1996: "We know..."

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I have windows 10 on a kvm. It was so slow on kvm that i though it was a load of horseshit. I loaded the exact same build bare metal and it actually ran exactly the same if not worse than when it was kvm. Windows 10 is already a load of horse shit.

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For the longest time I ran Windows 10 inside of Virtualbox on a Ubuntu install. Ran "ok" but Windows 10 requires at least 8GB and a SSD to be a usable system.

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kvm actually lets it use the bare metal as it is a "kernal (level) virtual machine". You can even install straight to a bare drive and load from a bare drive, then turn around and boot straight into the drive (that's what I did).

I figured when I installed with kvm that it was just slow in the kvm. When I loaded / booted straight to the drive (SSD) it actually seemed slower.

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My netbook has a dual core POS Atom and two gigs of RAM. It runs Arch Linux great. I can even watch Youtube videos on it.

Windows 10 would probably nope out of even installing on that. I bet XP would install, but lol drivers.

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Shouldn't an OS become lighter and more efficient as it is developed over time, not more bloated and resource demanding?

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Imagine using windows xp which runs on 128MB of RAM on modern hardware. It would be flawless.

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