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Firefox is the best web browser i know of as far as it capabilities and potential for privacy hardening, in part due to the , and understand that this

i think there's some 'misthink' among some of us in that using Firefox correlates to supporting Mozilla and that absolutely does not have to be the case, in fact quite the opposite - one can easily use the browser without supporting Mozilla and gain a substantial benefit with regard to protecting privacy

Mozilla is fucked, no doubt - beyond the politically correct/pro faggot bullshit, the 'free speech' advocates at corporate are perusing ways to literally censor the web, along with all of the rest of big tech

i hate the company, but i still use Firefox without giving Moz a dime

they make their millions (literally) from their many deals with many unethical companies, primarily search engines like google, so when you use the default Firefox search plugins, they get paid, simple as that

fortunately using their product without them benefiting is quite easy; basically you can just disable all of the built-in search plugs and add your own ... there's more to it than that, but that's the major part of it

for more info, and to understand why i suggest using FF from a privacy perspective, - among those articles you'll find 2 comprehensive configuration guides as well as info on search engines

Firefox is the best web browser i know of as far as it capabilities and potential for privacy hardening, in part due to the [arkenfox user.js project](https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js), and understand that this [isn't coming from a Firefox fanboy](https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/the-mozilla-monster/) i think there's some 'misthink' among some of us in that using Firefox correlates to supporting Mozilla and that absolutely does not have to be the case, in fact quite the opposite - one can easily use the browser without supporting Mozilla and gain a substantial benefit with regard to protecting privacy Mozilla is fucked, no doubt - beyond the politically correct/pro faggot bullshit, the 'free speech' advocates at corporate are perusing ways to literally censor the web, along with all of the rest of big tech i hate the company, but i still use Firefox without giving Moz a dime they make their millions (literally) from their many deals with many unethical companies, primarily search engines like google, so when you use the default Firefox search plugins, they get paid, simple as that fortunately using their product without them benefiting is quite easy; basically you can just disable all of the built-in search plugs and add your own ... there's more to it than that, but that's the major part of it for more info, and to understand why i suggest using FF from a privacy perspective, [go here](https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/) - among those articles you'll find 2 comprehensive configuration guides as well as info on search engines

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What about waterfox?

https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/14/waterfox-web-browser-sold-to-system1/

It appears that the Waterfox web browser has been sold to System1 recently, the same company that bought the Startpage search engine some time ago. To be precise, Startpage was bought by Privacy One Group Ltd which System1 owns. System1 is an advertising company that tries to "make advertising better and safer, while respecting consumer privacy".

Update: Alex Kontos, the creator of Waterfox, published a blog post on the official site explaining the change. End

Privacy expert Liz McIntyre, who was involved with Startpage prior to the ownership change, noticed in October 2019 that System1 was looking to hire a web browser developer. She decided to keep an eye on potential web browser sales as it was likely that System1 was interested in buying an established web browser with a user base instead of building one from scratch.

She discovered an ownership change in Waterfox Limited on December 13, 2019. Michael Bland was appointed director of Waterfox Limited on that day and Alexandros Kontos' role as director was terminated. System1 lists Michael Blend (note the e in the lastname) as chairman and co-founder.

https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/f3gqoc/privacy_browser_waterfox_appears_to_be_sold_to/

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You can downvote this one too, to feel secure... I'm sure this time it's going to work

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i am curious if using waterfox, but not updating past 56.2. that isn't part of system1, right?

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Yeah... But then what about security patches...