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Just like if you buy 1 cup of coffee you apparently can shoot heroin and smear feces within the Starbucks stores all day every day. Nobody is allowed to do anything about it because otherwise you're "responding to bait" or "feeding the trolls".

I speak for myself, but I'd like to think the sentiment is shared by others here.

Not a perfect analogy because I like Poal and I don't like Starbucks, but it makes sense to me.

Sucks to be one of those poor saps trying to enjoy the rest of the coffee shop... or the rest of the website. But hey, as long as your niche sub stays above the fray and squeaky clean, ignore the rest of the site.

obvious sarcasm is obvious

Just like if you buy 1 cup of coffee you apparently can shoot heroin and smear feces within the Starbucks stores all day every day. Nobody is allowed to do anything about it because otherwise you're "responding to bait" or "feeding the trolls". I speak for myself, but I'd like to think the sentiment is shared by others here. Not a perfect analogy because I like Poal and I *don't* like Starbucks, but it makes sense to me. Sucks to be one of those poor saps trying to enjoy the rest of the coffee shop... or the rest of the website. But hey, as long as your niche sub stays above the fray and squeaky clean, ignore the rest of the site. *obvious sarcasm is obvious*

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[–] 6 pts (edited )

Example: Asshole #1 never kvetches in /s/cocktails, my beautiful curated collection of libations, but 95% of xis activity is filling the rest of Poal with tirades, slander, and pilpul - shill behavior. The other 5% is nice cocktails. The expected standard of behavior is to ignore the user's total site derailment because of that 5% of "good faith" contributions.

Kind of like in medieval days when criminals sought "Sanctuary" in the local churches.

[–] 7 pts

I'm with you on this whole thread and it's fairly obvious, the shills don't even try to hide their shitting on Poal. I'm just not sure there's a solution other than the one I have ... never up vote, never comment, even on their fishing expeditions to build 'good' time credits.

[–] 3 pts (edited )

Moreover, since it is really pretty hard to keep someone out on a public site where making a new account takes minutes, isn't it better to discourage bad behavior and offer an alternative? A ban doesn't really neutralize the problem of bad actors. Better to discourage bad behavior when it occurs, allow good behavior, and keep everyone under the same account name so that no matter how many good boy points they think they've collected we can still remember who they are.

[–] 2 pts

Maybe it's similar to when a certain user enters the site and demands another user be removed for TOS violations that occured somewhere else. Should the admins have some culpability for not enforcing their rules even when the alleged violation occurs outside of their purview?

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

If they're going to start banning for offenses that occured elsewhere, they're going to need to be banning the user in question. He's not in the slightest bit innocent, I've got documentation of two actual doxxes and 2 attempted doxxings. Still want to go with this?

[–] 1 pt (edited )

My point is that the admins have been asked to ban a user for alleged TOS violations committed off the site. They refused to do this, which I think was appropriate.

[–] 2 pts

I disagree with this. The admins here are not responsible for users actions on other sites.

[–] 0 pt

Then by extension if you're a mod on some sub here should you be responsible for banning a user who behaves badly outside of the sub you mod?

[–] 4 pts

What ultimately happens to the "Suspicious Behavior" users? I encountered one in a thread earlier and (he)? seemed to be very angry.

[–] 5 pts

They either adapt to Poal's culture, leave, or continue to be tremendous faggots, and believe me, nobody here is a bigger faggot than the deranged keyboard warrior you came across.

[–] 4 pts

takes notes

So what is the endgame if they "continue to be tremendous faggots"? Can we block by user?

[–] 4 pts

There's no user block button at the moment that I'm aware of. Right now the endgame is that we get a lot of easy Poalpasta to laugh at.