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This was being talked about in the 90s...systems still running JOVIAL.

This was being talked about in the 90s...systems still running JOVIAL.
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...were unsustainable due to a lack of parts.

Because they're obsolete and not made anymore, or because our corrupt politicians sold our manufacturing industries overseas and they refuse to sell is said parts because they don't get enough foreign aid?

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A little bit of both, but some of this stuff is probably still running on minicomputers. Think DEC PDP-11 and HP2100 series stuff.

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System E for the WIN! 50 years old is rockin'. We still have 8 inch disks working the US Nuclear Deterrent but do we really want any air traffic control system running on Windows? IBM is going to have to come in with iSeries and Z13 mainframes and rebuild all that shit and it's gonna cost a lot.

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If you dig into the windows agreement, there are things that MS prohibits running on it. I can't remember if ATC is there, it's been decades since I had to worry about it.

I sold all of my 8" stuff for a hefty premium some years ago. I'm selling my remaining 5 1/4 stock now...amazing how many people think this stuff is free.

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You know? Unfortunately, we must prioritize between funding israel, zelenskyy, importing illegals and supporting niggers. These all take precedence to funding civilian programs that benefit white Americans.

Come on man, you're showing your white privilege.

Besides, planes spew out way too much carbon.

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Only you groundbounds need aircraft. You will never be a bird.

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Just think about it: the effort of flapping your wings versus sitting in a nice metal cage while fossil fuels whisk you to your destination with bird seed. It doesn't get better than that my friend.

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You catch the right thermal and you don't even need to flap. Just ride the wave.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOVIAL

Notable systems using embedded JOVIAL software include:

Milstar communications satellite Advanced Cruise Missile B-52, B-1B,[14] B-2 bombers C-130, C-141, C-17 transport aircraft F-111, F-15, F-16 (prior to Block 50), F-117 fighter aircraft LANTIRN U-2 aircraft Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft (Prior to Block 40/45) Navy Aegis cruisers Army Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) Army Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters F100, F117, F119 jet engines NORAD air defense & control system (Hughes HME-5118ME system) NATO Air Defence Ground Environment (NADGE) system RL10 rocket engines Civil NAS (National Airspace System) Air Traffic Control APG-70, APG-71, and APG-73 airborne radar systems[15]

The only way around this in a short term solution is to get use modern systems to emulate the OS environments and run the same code. That's how the banks and insurance companies updated their COBOL stuff. Same code running via emulation (Z/VM most likely) and plugging in the modern systems. That is why OS/2 was running on all the ATM machines in the 90s and up to the mid 2000s. Kike York is finally moving off of OS/2 for the subway payment system. Some of the airline ticket processing systems still think they are running on IBM/360s.

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An emulator adds a layer of abstraction and I presume would be interpretive... other alternative is a new compiler for modern day systems to execute the the old Jovial sourcecode. Alternately a program that reads and converts Jovial source code to C/C++ source code or a more appropriate modern language if Jovial has unique strengths beyond C capability. This would obsolesce Jovial and help in facilitating modern peripheral hardware upgrades to eventually end legacy hardware systems.

They fear the hardware cost, disruption and hiccups of rolling out a system conversion in a DEI embracing industry. I would too.

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DEI is the #1 threat to the success of any project.

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For some reason, JOVIAL simply will not die.

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JOVIAL, COBOL, and Lisp languages will be with us for another 100 years.