You are a fucking retard.
This is a really shit meme.
There aren't many atheists who do not celebrate Easter, I know a lot of atheists, and not many who don't at the very least get Easter Eggs, or bunny decorations, or have a dinner with their families over it, and there are few atheists who do anything to celebrate May 4th beyond recognizing the pun in the similarity it has to a part of the iconic quotation from a very well-known movie production, most atheists put more effort into celebrating Easter than they do May 4th. If the point of the meme is that atheists celebrate one and not the other, that's totally false, they celebrate both, and the one they do more to celebrate is the one the meme claims they do not celebrate at all.
It's almost as if the maker of this meme never met a non-Christian before.
It also memory holes most of Christian history and their attitudes towards festivities like Easter.
I mean, sure, atheists don't go to church on Easter, they likely don't go to church at all, but they do observe the date in their own way, it's not just another day for them, and technically, they are celebrating Easter the way that Christians were supposed to, Remember Easter and Christmas were for a long period forbidden for Christians to celebrate, as they were both considered pagan festivals, and not the occasions recognized by the Bible, it's basically idolatry and heresy to celebrate them. What Christians should be celebrating are Bible-approved occasions like passover, which is widely associated with Judaism instead, going to church on Sunday was always alright for Christianity, but doing to it celebrate Easter was not.
Second, the meme here is straight up declaring that Christianity is a fairy tale, like Star Wars, and that it is pathetic to celebrate any occasion that is associated with a fairy tale, making the conclusion that while both are pathetic, one is more pathetic, and that's the celebration of May the 4th.
Except that both are pathetic for different reasons, the Star Wars celebrants may be celebrating a more modern piece of mythology, one that is mass-marketed to midwits and absolutely slathered with mindless consumerism, but at the very least they openly acknowledge that Star Wars is fiction.
While there are Christians who actually believe that the Bible is true (to varying extents), and to say that the Bible wasn't given the same treatment as Star Wars is to willingly ignore much of history, the Bible being used to distract and direct midwits and being slathered in mindless consumerism is not a new phenomenon - Even from the inception of the universal church that almost all other Christian churches derive themselves from, people used to straight up pay money to the catholic church in order to buy their way into Heaven, and most denominations of Christianity that came after were derived from Catholicism, which was the universal church after the council of Nicea, which is why most of them are just variations on the theme that was set by the Catholics, mainly "Catholicism, but with the following differences...".
Both are a part of the mythologies that did much to shape our culture, and both are by this point quite old (need I remind you how long ago WAS the 80's?).
The meme also makes a mistake, if celebrating a fairy tale is pathetic, and both are fairy tales, and one is more pathetic than the other, then why not come to the conclusion that instead of celebrating the less pathetic fairy tale, to instead reject both? the whole meme relies upon a false dichotomy, when the other option is right before anyone who reads this meme.
That's the problem with this "calling out hypocrisy" strategy of attacking some part of the population, saying "they do worse version of what we do" is just inviting people to say "well, then let's try doing neither", a lesser evil is still an evil.
This is a low-IQ meme, I'm an atheist, and I've never done anything to commemorate May 4th in my life, but I've been doing things for Easter every year I can remember, I've probably done something for Easter every year of my life.
The whole premise of atheism is the ‘I won’t be duped, I have it all figured out.’ Which is just a failure of your ego. The only truth that is empirical and absolute in this conservation is that neither of us know. It’s beyond our inherent limits as human beings to know. Hence, I tend to lean more towards agonistic than Christian anyway. I don’t disagree with some of the things you said, and I certainly didn’t make this meme nor do I think it even makes a very good point! Lol but thanks for the thoughtful response
My position is that I don't know, and that by the evidence I've seen and the arguments I've encountered, I have no reason to believe that the Christian God exists, and the same goes for all the supernatural claims of the Bible, I also have some reason to assume that these claims, such as God, the Soul, and the Afterlife, are not possible (for all three of them, the belief that the mind and senses could exist without a physical component is a serious obstacle that needs explaining away, even if you reject the soul/afterlife and accept bodily resurrection, the problem remains as God is still in the picture, all it does is adds on the problem of how bodies decompose and their constituent atoms are used for the construction of other lifeforms, including those which "count" such as future human beings), but that is subject to change.
As such I am in agreement with you, there is no reason for the term of agnosticism to exist, it's origins are jewish, and comes from a jew whose influence I particularly despise, and what it describes is the position that was held by the majority of atheists throughout history, when someone calls themselves "atheist" chances are that this "agnosticism" is what they are talking about with regards to their position on religious claims, those who outright deny even the possibility of religious claims are not very common in my experience.
Hello friend! St Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs of God. Check it out. Oh and Easter bunnies and eggs isn’t celebrating Easter. It’s celebrating Jew consumerism. And saying people used to “straight up buy their way into heaven” is a misunderstanding of plenary indulgences taught by your (our, haha most of us grew up with this misunderstanding) Jew history books. But one thing at a time.
I’m not familiar with the history of either term. But generally I have perceived a separation between the two, atheism being more firm and ‘decided’ in their denial of a god. Again I’m not very red pilled on this subject, but I assume both terms were created by Jews to subvert Christianity
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