Styx vs Nick | Live Debate: Religion in the U.S. | CALL ME AL | EPISODE 11

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Nick keeps saying that "Christianity is the truth" but Styx never has him prove this claim. It bothered me. Whenever I ask a Christian to prove this claim, you end up with circular reasoning. "The Bible is the truth" How do you know this?" "The Bible was written by God" How do you know? "Because the Bible says so" What gives the Bible authority? "Because it was written by God". If it's true, you should be able to prove that it's true without the Bible. If you can prove the Bible's very specific God, without the Bible, then the Bible proves itself. Very few Christians attempt to prove this to me. If they do, they always use the world flood myth. Yes, there was a Younger Dryas flood, but if you're going to use that as proof of Christianity, then you have to use it as proof for EVERY religion that has a world flood myth, which just about every single one of them has. Hell Norse Mythology has TWO (death of Ymir and the ordering of the world, and Ragnarok) so by this logic, doesn't that mean that Norse Mythology is twice as true?

Another thing that a lot of Christians try, is that they point out that the Bible has some undeniably true stuff in it, that everyone can observe, therefore the entire Bible is true. I can write "The sky is blue" then follow that up with tons of bullshit. Just because I said one true thing, doesn't mean everything I say is true. I notice Nick falls on this one a lot during the debate as well.

Styx also tries to mention several times that the Bible steals a lot of material from all the religions around it, and he lets Nick get away with basically saying "NUH UH" and then leaving it at that. Styx didn't even try backing stuff up. Like the Crucifixion, he says that many Pagan religions have similar stories, but doesn't mention any at least until the last 20 minutes of debate, but by then he'd been letting Nick get away with "NUH UH" for almost 2 hours. Meanwhile, Norse has Odin hanging himself from Yggdrasil, which is incredibly close to the Crucifixion myth, including having his side pierced by a spear. Then there's the holy Trinity, which Nick says has ABSOLUTELY NO Pagan version. Norse has Odin splitting into three gods on multiple occasions (The High, Just as High, and the Most High), and Irish Mythology has The Morrigan, who is one goddess who's three goddesses.

These things just bothered me during the debate, and in my opinion had Styx arguing from an extreme disadvantage.

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Nick keeps saying that "Christianity is the truth" but Styx never has him prove this claim. It bothered me. Whenever I ask a Christian to prove this claim, you end up with circular reasoning. "The Bible is the truth" How do you know this?" "The Bible was written by God" How do you know? "Because the Bible says so" What gives the Bible authority? "Because it was written by God". If it's true, you should be able to prove that it's true without the Bible. If you can prove the Bible's very specific God, without the Bible, then the Bible proves itself. Very few Christians attempt to prove this to me. If they do, they always use the world flood myth. Yes, there was a Younger Dryas flood, but if you're going to use that as proof of Christianity, then you have to use it as proof for EVERY religion that has a world flood myth, which just about every single one of them has. Hell Norse Mythology has TWO (death of Ymir and the ordering of the world, and Ragnarok) so by this logic, doesn't that mean that Norse Mythology is twice as true? Another thing that a lot of Christians try, is that they point out that the Bible has some undeniably true stuff in it, that everyone can observe, therefore the entire Bible is true. I can write "The sky is blue" then follow that up with tons of bullshit. Just because I said one true thing, doesn't mean everything I say is true. I notice Nick falls on this one a lot during the debate as well. Styx also tries to mention several times that the Bible steals a lot of material from all the religions around it, and he lets Nick get away with basically saying "NUH UH" and then leaving it at that. Styx didn't even try backing stuff up. Like the Crucifixion, he says that many Pagan religions have similar stories, but doesn't mention any at least until the last 20 minutes of debate, but by then he'd been letting Nick get away with "NUH UH" for almost 2 hours. Meanwhile, Norse has Odin hanging himself from Yggdrasil, which is incredibly close to the Crucifixion myth, including having his side pierced by a spear. Then there's the holy Trinity, which Nick says has ABSOLUTELY NO Pagan version. Norse has Odin splitting into three gods on multiple occasions (The High, Just as High, and the Most High), and Irish Mythology has The Morrigan, who is one goddess who's three goddesses. These things just bothered me during the debate, and in my opinion had Styx arguing from an extreme disadvantage.

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