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You can easily shoot red dot when you're proficient with irons, but not the other way around. Red dot training can produce bad fundamental mechanics and you'll never know it until the battery goes out. Train with iron sights.

You can easily shoot red dot when you're proficient with irons, but not the other way around. Red dot training can produce bad fundamental mechanics and you'll never know it until the battery goes out. Train with iron sights.
[–] 3 pts

They better be changing the badges to denote if you've done it with iron sites or tech assisted.

[–] 2 pts

Old school is best. Train iron sights first, then adapt.

[–] 2 pts

Concur on all points. The context-switch is the devil, and I like dots for low-light cqb and very quick target acquisition, but the fundamentals are exactly that. There is a difference between accuracy and precision. A marksman should know both.

[–] 1 pt

I've seen guys' red dots fail during training and they were clueless how to proceed. Of course they hadn't ever zeroed their irons (what is co-witness?) so the rest of the training day was a waste for them.

I don't think I know the difference between accuracy and precision. Learn me something, what is it?

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Accuracy is within a range, while precision is exact. Say, the 'A' zone on an USPSA target could constitute accuracy, putting a round in the center of A is precise - or better a group fist size versus a group at the same distance half-dollar size.

[–] 1 pt

>A marksman should know both. Never better said.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

You still need fundamentals. I'm ok with the idea but I also see it as another thing that can fail.

[–] 1 pt

Maybe it's my astigmatism talking but I do not like pistol dots. I find it much easier to align iron sights than to find the fucking dot that looks like a smudge my stupid eyes.