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Whats your choice?

Whats your choice?

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[–] • 4 pts

The AR was designed to be used by an educated first world soldier who has strong logistical support. One must use the proper ammo loaded with the proper propellent. It must be cleaned with the proper solvent and lubed with the proper lubricant. The AK, on the other hand, was built for use by an uneducated peasant with little to no logistical support. You can clean an AK with gasoline if that's all you have. As far as lube, I haven't tried it but I believe an AK would run for a while, at least, on bacon grease, if that's all I had. I lube mine with wheel bearing grease. When the balloon goes up whatever ammo you have on hand is probably all you will ever have, if you can hold on to it. I'm also confident that an AK would cycle ammo loaded with black powder, if that's all you had as well. I know my way around an M16. It was part of my life for eight years. Part of my duties as a US Marine was as a marksmanship coach and instructor. As far as ammo, what you have when the balloon goes up is probably all you will ever have and everyone who knows you have it is going to want it.

[–] • 2 pts

I haven't tried it but I believe an AK would run for a while, at least, on bacon grease

I’ve tried it on an AR. In fact I’ve experimented with bacon grease, coconut oil, and olive oil. Olive oil not so good, it burns off too quickly. Bacon grease and coconut oil are ok, but they will freeze if the temps get too low and can cause your BCG to seize.

In fact I now use coconut oil to clean all of my firearms. There are no fumes to give you a headache, and the wife doesn’t complain about the smell. Then wipe clean and lube with a little motor oil and you’re good to go.

[–] • 3 pts

In America, AR. (Due to availability of ammo, post SHTF scenario.) Anywhere else, AK or whatever your country's military carries into battle. (Same reason.)

As an American, I have to ask, why not all of them and more? Of course, payday, grab a few freedom seeds to feed your critters. Stock up, get some range time in, stay sharp and have fun with your tools.

[–] • 1 pt

cause ammo

[–] • 1 pt

If you're getting a decent price on a fully built Czech, I'd grab it. If it's a little steep, look into building one (AR or AK.) Builds usually come in a little cheaper than an off the rack. Plus side, you get the knowledge of the how to end and can take pride in having done it yourself.

Do some reading up, there's a world of different things out there. 80% lower and a jig or a torched in half import (also needs a tool/jig, idk the proper term.)

Also, be patient if you go through building route. Things can take some time to get to you. Mabye you only have X amount of cash and some parts have to wait. Builds aren't for everyone, tho.

[–] • 1 pt

possibly deciding to invest in one caliber may make a difference also.

[–] • 1 pt

Depends on the environment your fighting in, as much as the country as many here have already stated. Personally, I'd take a 12 gauge with 00 buck over either rifle platform for an urban warfare scenario, but I'm weird like that

[–] • 1 pt

I bet there is a surprising amount of 7.62 x39 here already. Not to mention confiscating if attacked.

[–] • 1 pt

More than you'd think, yes. Hell, theres a healthy amount of 7.62x54R too after the Mosin craze 10 years ago. If your fighting in a militia or military, then you'd want a real rifle. But real life ain't a FPS, and you don't want to be getting into a gunfight if you can avoid it. If your in a rural or innawoods place, that's easy. Urban, if innawoods isn't an option, you're gonna fortify up. In that case, you want a stash of a few hundred rounds and a weapon your comfortable with in close quarters. Shotguns are perfect for that.

[–] • 2 pts

few hundred,... shotguns are a last resort.

[–] • 1 pt

Alaska over Arkansas. But my AR15 over my AK47, but random AK47 over random AR15, and my AR10 over all.

[–] • 2 pts

Yeah, I have a couple of M1As, as that is a platform I have trained with. In an end of the world scenario where I live there is a possibility of having to deal with animals gone feral such as cattle. I have had "domestic" cattle try to kill me while helping neighbors work their herds. I can only imagine how they would be after going full feral. We already have feral hogs and they can reach 200 pounds or more and they run in herds. A sow with piglets will kill you if she sees you as a threat to her brood. I have killed hogs with 7.62X39 but none that big. I have confidence that .308 will handle anything around here if I do my part. Remember, a survival weapon is the one you have with you when a survival situation presents itself...

[–] • 1 pt

Never fired a Vs-58. Ak ammo was cheap when I was a lad though.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Yes.

If you’re an American, it’s practically taboo not to own an AR. And if the SHTF .223/5.56 will be the most available rifle ammo. But the AK is a superior platform. It doesn’t need constant maintenance and cleaning to keep it from malfunctioning, and contrary to popular belief it’s not an inaccurate weapon. But mags and ammo will be more scarce in a SHTF situation. It’s possible to get an AK platform chambered in .223/5.56, but mags will be almost impossible to find and also some of the mags are prone to jamming. So unless you’re a firearms aficionado, just stick to the basics. Nothing wrong with a plain Jane AK.

But if you live in ‘Murica, you should own both.

[–] • 1 pt

As many as you can/want to afford and whatever calibers you want.

Brandon Herrera (gun tuber and running for Congress in TX) has a lot of amusing stuff on his channel. His company is also working on building an AK-50 ..because they can.

[–] • 1 pt

M70.

[–] • 1 pt

Isnt that just an ak variant?

[–] • 1 pt

Yes, but so is VZ-58, so I decided to be specific.

Anyway, I believe AK is superior to AR.