You indeed shook a few branches with your other thread. It's all highly related. Then I saw the Red Ice interview and one of Derek's statements made me come back to a previous investigation which lead to this particular guy named Hawkins and a connection between RCMP, Hells Angels, Jesuits and some politicians. The type of mental enslavement through these rituals mentioned by Hawkins in this interview is totally real. I've never been into watching strippers, and was always curious why men act so strangely and it's all related to this kind of master/servant emotional infantalization. As you mentioned, like feeding on the sorrow of others for power. I think the occult rituals are just a delivery package of the brainwashing though, and it seems to be a tasteless and odorless thing we consume and are then controlled by without even being aware. It's clear now why these UN people don't want parents to spank their kids anymore ... as they can get to the fear centers of the children easier in schools and break up the family unit easier.