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Been hearing about it for years but never anything specific or in depth. I’m about 1/2 way through it and it actually seems like absolute required reading for any later based content on the JQ. How they established themselves and the patterns they proved about their culture in that 200 years in a single country without getting expelled was the deciding factor in their history it seems. They always seemed to get expelled before they get that far in other country’s but Russia just non stop tolerated and compromised for them right into the 1904 Revolution. What’s weird about the book is that even after the 3 part gulag archipelago about how 66 million were massacred, and specifically saying numerous times the entire soviet leadership was jewish, then writing the 200 year history about how they never assimilated in any way, refused to take part in any manual labour or enriching the land, did almost nothing but middle man their way into usury every chance they got, then when the locals gave them direct push back they immediately went WAY farther then the goy’s did and assasinated major leaders and politicians when none of their leaders were ever targeted. But after writing about 200 years of this, as soon as the conflict got heated back and forth from both sides Alexander Solzhenitsyn immediately splits the blame and starts contexting the conflict as both parties being equally guilty and highlights both sides mistakes equally. Not to be a light switch brain absolutist, but at no point when describing the Russians opposition to the revolutionaries does he make the case for their justified cumulative anger after 200 years with a ppl that did every single thing to make sure they never experienced a day of true equality.

I don’t think the author can have the knowledge he has and come to the conclusion that the pogroms weren’t totally justified after 200 years. Is he just a shill?

Been hearing about it for years but never anything specific or in depth. I’m about 1/2 way through it and it actually seems like absolute required reading for any later based content on the JQ. How they established themselves and the patterns they proved about their culture in that 200 years in a single country without getting expelled was the deciding factor in their history it seems. They always seemed to get expelled before they get that far in other country’s but Russia just non stop tolerated and compromised for them right into the 1904 Revolution. What’s weird about the book is that even after the 3 part gulag archipelago about how 66 million were massacred, and specifically saying numerous times the entire soviet leadership was jewish, then writing the 200 year history about how they never assimilated in any way, refused to take part in any manual labour or enriching the land, did almost nothing but middle man their way into usury every chance they got, then when the locals gave them direct push back they immediately went WAY farther then the goy’s did and assasinated major leaders and politicians when none of their leaders were ever targeted. But after writing about 200 years of this, as soon as the conflict got heated back and forth from both sides Alexander Solzhenitsyn immediately splits the blame and starts contexting the conflict as both parties being equally guilty and highlights both sides mistakes equally. Not to be a light switch brain absolutist, but at no point when describing the Russians opposition to the revolutionaries does he make the case for their justified cumulative anger after 200 years with a ppl that did every single thing to make sure they never experienced a day of true equality. I don’t think the author can have the knowledge he has and come to the conclusion that the pogroms weren’t totally justified after 200 years. Is he just a shill?

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Yeah solzhenitsyn has a weird vibe about his writing. I used it once as a reference for history class a while back. It does provide decent evidence behind the Jewish subversion that is responsible..

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That’s exactly my point, he must have the most comprehensive list of hard facts of the worst predatory behaviour of a ppl group towards everyone else of any group, and how they went on to quintuple the world genocide record in human history, but still splits the blame when both sides are fighting equally and makes no case for the 10+ generation collective fear frustration and anger of the Russians when describing their actions and reactions. I really don’t like the blind hatred or over simplifying mindset about the JQ, but I honestly don’t know if I can trust Alexander Solzhenitsyn not to be a shill after this. Even if he still wanted to really push the ‘need to forgive’ narrative after everything he went through, that doesn’t mean you can possibly equate each sides motivations and intentions towards the other, it’s just not a rational conclusion to arrive at imo.

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thanks for your detailed analysis; very helpful for those like me too lazy to read all of his work (at least not yet).

my obliviousness stated and since you are fresh with the material: do you suppose he is eluding to the reality that 'our side' played an equal role in the so called predatory behavior ie- by selfishly being prey ? It seems to be the earliest lesson (and the one part I did read) that he imparts from the Gulag; "and how we burned in the camps later... We didn't love freedom enough". Pinning all the blame on JQ seems to undermine this important message that we should look inwards to the solution.

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In fairness, I’ve only read volume 1 of The Gulag archipelago , and for this book I’m just chapter 15 into the audiobook. But as for your question, I think I understand what you’re asking. And to be honest, i’m not getting that from the author at all, at least not yet. In chapter 13, after laying out the largest string of facts for the jews having never integrated or contributed physically and never experienced any pogrom by the Russians where the jews weren’t violent 1st. He flat out states that “the 1905 revolution wasn’t something the jews perpetrated on russians, but rather something the Russians perpetrated on the jews”........ I’m not joking. Like even after 1000s of pages written about the disproportionate crimes by jews against Russians, he keeps judging the actual conflicts between them by the immediate actions of each party at the present time. And expresses no sympathy or consideration for Russians actions after those same 200 years of victimhood he just described.

In chapter 15 he starts out by saying “there’s no way to blame the Jews for Lenin, because he was plainly Russian”. But then immediately goes on to list Lenin’s parents and grandparents where his grandfather was jewish..... and says it’s because “Russians cant be excluded from Lenin’s make up.”... Then goes on to elaborate how after 200 years of being the least integrated ppl group in the world or just Russia’s history, they’ve been in Russia so long how can it not be considered a purely Russian phenomenon. Not talking into consideration that they had been evicted from countries over 1000+ times by the time he published that book in 2001.....

I’m honestly starting to get the feeling Alexander Solzhenitsyn books are just a type of disclosure op.there must have been a reason the NKVD didn’t assassinating him in exile or the KGB even after he returned. His contrast between evidence and conclusion is so extreme it’s hard not to call it gaslighting imo. It’s more then just trying to make the “both sides” argument imo. He has no sympathy for Russian victims of jewish oppression in the 17-1800s. I thought this book would be even harder on jews then the Gulag, but it actually seems the other way around. The Gulag describes the crimes, but all you have to do is deny they were all Jews to get away with it, this book doesn’t describe worse crimes, but I think they chose to shelve this one because it makes an undeniable case that the jews were the only ppl in Russia that could have produced the red revolution genocide, and that the Russians weren’t even capable of something like that, upon themselves or others. Despite the “both sides” larping the author insists on.

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I think you nailed it. He has a lot of truth but ultimately he was in on it. Miles Mathis outs him as an Anti from the families, I believe.

mileswmathis.com

He's got so many papers on there, best to search his site here: https://big-lies.org/mileswmathis/index.html

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After going through a cpl more chapters I think he’s actually trying to diffuse the anger at jews he caused with the Gulag books. By about chapter 22 it occurred to me that after all these 1000s of pages he’s written on jewish history and Bolshevik genocide, and out right blaming Russians for the 1905 revolution AND taking respondability for Lenin even though he was jewish and hated every aspect of Russians and Russian history. The author doesn’t quote the Talmud or Torah once when describing motivations for jewish crimes. He endlessly lists the obscene jewish monopoly on power during massacres, but turns right around and talks about it like its not supposed to reflect on jews as a whole because some jews opposed the Bolsheviks. When there’s tons of evidence in the Talmud to unite Jews against the goy wether they’re communist or Zionist or whatever. Just another thing that seems unrealistic for someone so well researched to just exclude something like that. He even states at one point how anti jewish the top Bolsheviks were like Trotsky, but immediately says every single person around him or that he hired or appointed was jewish... yet this does nothing to convince the author of any hint of purely ethnic in group preference. Oh and he also 100% believes in the 6 million Holocaust, and that the Protocols were a hoax. And doesn’t give any elaboration as to why, just that an investigation found them to be fake and some writer at the time claimed they plagerized some other writings against Napoleon, and that’s it. No hint of the fact that it doesn’t matter fake or not because history proves them factual, and again he mentions nothing of the Talmud declaring all those things anyway.

I’m not done yet but I honestly think he’s trying to bury and gaslight for the jews after the heat he brought them in earlier books. Somewhere in chapter 12-13 he actually flat out says in his previous book The Red Door he intentionally covered and down played the Jewish role in crimes against Russians.

As weird as it is to have written all this, he isn’t against any amount of jewish presence in Russian society at any level throughout their history.

@baphometworshipper

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Can't ever find it.

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Hard copy is impossible, PDF isn’t to hard to find, but audiobook is the best I’ve found. https://archive.org/details/200YearsTogether_AleksandrSolzhenitsyn_AudioBook

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Ah, great appreciate it.

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No problem. The guy pronounces a lot of words wrong, but he doesn’t stutter or struggle so he does a great job.

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