> Women, all women only remake themselves in an image of what is attractive to men at the time. I disagree, but I would say that this is *largely* true. Women largely remake themselves in order to make themselves sexually attractive to men. Its a big biological motivator. So what? How is that in conflict with this statement: >Men’s opinions on the subject are only as important as men’s reproductive usefulness to women. It isnt. Were you trying to refute my statement? Cause it didnt happen. >Why do you think women spend so much time on cosmetics, makeup, clothes, to appeal to men, of course, to stand out and get picked up from the crowd. There are other reasons besides sex. Prestige. Trying to look more competent/healthy/wealthy. Why do some men dress up in expensive suits for work? To impress a boss or client? Or to suck their dick? Its not always about getting laid. Not directly anyway. > No man that wants a wife and family wants this, Men wanted to play the field in their 20s, get the milk without buying the cow. And then eventually buy some cow or other. And then divorce the cow if she was too boring or fat. Or fuck the secretary. Because they couldnt stand to be “tied down”. And women who wouldnt get a job were just lazy and selfish. Men had it all. And they threw it all away. Because they didnt want to be tied to the old ball and chain. Hardly any men at all were saying women need to stay home and be chaste and stay virgins topill marriage. God forbid a *man* should stay chaste till marriage. I was a kid in the 70s and 80s. Zero men were saying “We need to get back to traditional sexuality”. Zero, except for a handfull of fundie preachers. I would have remembered. Young guys on this site that advocate monogamy and no fap? They werent around. If you were a girl that didnt put out, guys mocked you. If you are too young to remember ask an old dude. >why fashion is cyclical So jews can sell you an entirely new wardrobe every 5 years. Duh. You thought they did that so you wouldnt have to think about your mom when you fucked your wife? Adorable. >Take a look at what was considered objectively attractive No such thing. There are trends in opinion. > We want traditional conservative values, we want a woman as close to traditional wives as is possible. There were literally no white men saying this 25 years ago. Except the amish. Every guy wanted a playboy playmate. There still are not that many white guys clamoring for trads today. But it is a new phenomenon in the last decade or two. During the second half of the 20th century most men did not want that. If the did they were sure quiet about it. Guys were totally jewed when it was working in their favor. >The woman on the right from the OP looks R1b, It doesnt look like she has a **y chromosome** at all. I have a sense about these things! R1b is a y chromosome. Its going to go extinct if you keep pushing this mgtow line. >Live however you want, we need to cut the wheat from the chaff and if your hell bent on being a cum rag or getting knocked up by spics, niggers or entering a contract with a mudlime, just do it....Also what is wrong with wanting traditional values and traditional gender roles? Nothing. I believe in traditional values. But you need to educate yourself on the decline of western morality. They undermined the family by enticing men with easy sex, by undermining christian morality. They convinced MEN to play the field. >Why are all the women on poal/voat all head cases? I wasn't hitting on you, You’re a head case. I didn’t think you were hitting on me. I refer to the suggestion that I shut up and get in the kitchen— offer declined. >It is important to understand that increasing feminism has decreased the overall life satisfaction for all women in first-world nations for the last 35years. I understand it. Im it’s biggest critic. Its been worse on men though clearly. >Whilst you make yourself in the image (((marketing))) tells you, whilst failing to achieve your goals of being a wife and motherhood for another year. I do? I have? What do you know about me? Nothing clearly. >I have several diplomas and my highest academic achievement presently is a Masters Lots of jew certificates. Nice. So do I. Irrelevant.