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Since it has become apparent that the amount of grifters within the conservative movement was higher than I thought, I decided to make this to help people see where they see themselves as a part of in the movement.

Establishment Right- A corporatist conglomerate that supports amnesty, mass legal immigration, zionism, and leftist controlled corporations. Includes neocons, zionists, and corporatists.

Alt-Right- Includes controlled opposition by antifa members, and federal agents. Movement is a lot smaller than they claim to be.

"Fake Right"- Tend to refer to themselves as simply 'center-right', 'right-leaning centrist', 'moderate leftist', or 'liberal conservative', when what they really mean is that they are socially liberal, which is not right-wing. They refer to themselves that way in an attempt to distance themselves from the broader Left. They tend to support mass legal immigration, and to some extent LGBT ideology. Includes 'liberalists', libertines, pro-LGBT activists, and zionists.

I noticed how more people are using the phrase "dissident right" to distinguish themselves from the establishment right, alt-right and the 'fake right' in an effort to make it easier to spot grifters within the conservative movement. I consider myself to be a part of the dissident right.

Dissident Right- A grassroots movement that favors a reduction in both legal and illegal immigration, and opposes political correctness, LGBT ideology, and neoconservatism/zionism. Includes anti-neocons/anti-zionists, anti-communists, traditionalists, and nationalists.

Since it has become apparent that the amount of grifters within the conservative movement was higher than I thought, I decided to make this to help people see where they see themselves as a part of in the movement. **Establishment Right-** A corporatist conglomerate that supports amnesty, mass legal immigration, zionism, and leftist controlled corporations. Includes neocons, zionists, and corporatists. **Alt-Right-** Includes controlled opposition by antifa members, and federal agents. Movement is a lot smaller than they claim to be. **"Fake Right"-** Tend to refer to themselves as simply 'center-right', 'right-leaning centrist', 'moderate leftist', or 'liberal conservative', when what they really mean is that they are socially liberal, which is not right-wing. They refer to themselves that way in an attempt to distance themselves from the broader Left. They tend to support mass legal immigration, and to some extent LGBT ideology. Includes 'liberalists', libertines, pro-LGBT activists, and zionists. [There tend to be grifters within this political sphere, and r/TheDonald tends to lean towards this political sphere.](#spoiler) I noticed how more people are using the phrase "dissident right" to distinguish themselves from the establishment right, alt-right and the 'fake right' in an effort to make it easier to spot grifters within the conservative movement. I consider myself to be a part of the dissident right. **Dissident Right-** A grassroots movement that favors a reduction in both legal and illegal immigration, and opposes political correctness, LGBT ideology, and neoconservatism/zionism. Includes anti-neocons/anti-zionists, anti-communists, traditionalists, and nationalists.

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Well stated. I see myself as a card carrying Reaganite ... and would best describe myself in your rundown as a Dissident Right type guys. I like to think of it as common sense conservatism.

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Don't forget that the Establishment and Fake Rights think of America as an "idea." They think everyone is yearning to be an American in their hearts. This is a great summary and I'm glad Dissident Right is catching on.

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Interesting way to put it.

I don't know if it makes me "fake right". But I think all our problems stem from taxation (including inflation). No taxation means no welfare state, no welfare state means no "refugees". No taxation means no public schools, and the free market won't pay for Marxist indoctrination camps. No taxation means no healthcare, so degenerate aids-spreading lifestyles are no longer affordable. No taxation means no single mother households supported by the state shitting out future criminals. No taxation means no bailing out banks when they fuck up (and people learning to not keep their hard earned cash in a fucking bank).

Take away the money, and you solve basically every problem.

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My view is that really only the left exists as an ideology, meaning any group of people that marxists see as favorable to themselves. Everyone else is "Right" meaning that increadably opposite ideologies can all be considered right.

Neo-cons and libertarians have nothing to do with each other but they are labeled right. The only thing they have in common is that they aren't marxists. Right is just an absence of being left.

Libertarians (I think you accidentally wrote libertines) absolutely can be conservative. Their personal values can greatly exceed the supposed traditionalism of many who call them selves alt-right who occupy degenerate websites like 4chan and 8chan. Most alt-right are converts to traditionalism and bring with them a great deal of degeneracy they haven't fixed yet.

Our founding fathers both had traditional values and had the capacity to not rule over people's social and economic lives with an iron fist the way both liberals and some on the "right" have a reflex to do. Is being a constitutionalist fake right?

Anyways the reality of the situation of right being a slur for anything not sympathetic to marxism makes me suggest that we throw off the term right all together. It's not advantageous for any of these groups to be confused with the others and to argue among themselves what right is. These are genuinely different groups as different as different can be. It is to our advantage to define them, hence your post, and consider them independent. There is a whole field of ideas outside of marxism and they can't all share a label. It also makes each one weak because the left can conflate any idea labeled right with any other idea labeled right. So the worst idea outside of themselves becomes the perception of any idea outside of themselves. This is a great way to help them continue their cult. So lets not do that. The right doesn't exist. There is a field of actually serious thinkers outside of marx. They can't be labeled the same and argue for that label.

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A libertine is not a regular libertarian. A libertine is someone who is devoid of most moral principles, a sense of responsibility, or sexual restraints, which are seen as unnecessary.

And what you see as alt-right may not actually be alt-right. Many groups of people might overlap with each other and might share views with the 'alt-right', but do not refer to themselves as 'alt-right' as they don't want to be connected to federal agents and controlled opposition.

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I love conservative broads!