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or however he fucking spells it made a post today, about the discovery of an ancient Roman trading ship wrecked off the coast of Cyprus.

I read the article, and it was treated as a totally joyous event. No sympathy was given towards the Roman sailors that died horrible deaths drowning off the coast of Cyprus.

Now, if you read, or view, almost any account of the sinking of the Titanic, it will talk about the horrors of it's sinking, the fact that it did not have enough lifeboats, and the hubris involved in it's construction.

Now, this is my actual question, and it isn't the one listed in the title.

Why do some historical tragedies resonate with the people, while others do not?

Why does the "genocide" of Native Americans continue to fill people's imagination, when it was smallpox, not other humans, that literally did 98% of the killing?

Why does nobody seem to care about the human-driven genocides committed by the Mongol and Aztec empires?

Why does the enslavement of Africans by Europeans dominate peoples' imaginations, as opposed to the enslavement of Africans by Arabs, or other Africans?

Why must the Holocaust never be forgotten, while the holodomor is barely even remembered?

What makes a tragedy easily relatable?

@Mazzarhataboot or however he fucking spells it made a post today, about the discovery of an ancient Roman trading ship wrecked off the coast of Cyprus. I read the article, and it was treated as a totally joyous event. No sympathy was given towards the Roman sailors that died horrible deaths drowning off the coast of Cyprus. Now, if you read, or view, almost any account of the sinking of the Titanic, it will talk about the horrors of it's sinking, the fact that it did not have enough lifeboats, and the hubris involved in it's construction. Now, this is my actual question, and it isn't the one listed in the title. Why do some historical tragedies resonate with the people, while others do not? Why does the "genocide" of Native Americans continue to fill people's imagination, when it was smallpox, not other humans, that literally did 98% of the killing? Why does nobody seem to care about the human-driven genocides committed by the Mongol and Aztec empires? Why does the enslavement of Africans by Europeans dominate peoples' imaginations, as opposed to the enslavement of Africans by Arabs, or other Africans? Why must the Holocaust never be forgotten, while the holodomor is barely even remembered? What makes a tragedy easily relatable?

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Why does the "genocide" of Native Americans continue to fill people's imagination, when it was smallpox, not other humans, that literally did 98% of the killing? Why does nobody seem to care about the human-driven genocides committed by the Mongol and Aztec empires? Why does the enslavement of Africans by Europeans dominate peoples' imaginations, as opposed to the enslavement of Africans by Arabs, or other Africans? Why must the Holocaust never be forgotten, while the holodomor is barely even remembered?

Propaganda. Including the Titanic too. It has a movie after all. People are taught at a very young age about slavery and not too much older when they learn about the holocaust and colonization of the New World. They are largely taught narratives with little statistics and are instead told narratives meant to paint whiteness as evil.

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What's your favorite genocide/mass-murder/tragedy/ship-sinking that isn't promoted by propaganda?

Hard mode: No USS Liberty.

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I'll pick a genocide and say the Bantu Expansion. It really puts the issue of who does South Africa belong to into question, if you care about whose ancestors were there first.

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Heard of it, got a good source for reading more about it?

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The why natural gas smells like rotten eggs

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Would've been cooler if instead of adding a smell to the natural gas, they just required a canary in every building.

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It's called Compassion Fatigue and due to Vicarious Learning accelerating such a thing, many young people are growing up with little empathy and simply learning reflexive empathy vicariously through other people, largely online. This has, more or less, hindered pair bonding, stunted social growth (cowering in fear instead of accepting and embracing shame) and promulgated tensions between sub-groups.

I could go in to this a little more but it might get boring. It's mostly about vague Mockingbird shit, but you should get the idea. If you want to learn how these methods were refined, study refresh rates, media lighting (very wide ranging), the late night talk show effect, laugh tracks, various audio tampering, Neurolinguistic Programming (big one), basics of framing, etc.

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My immunity to such things is based upon the fact that I am too stupid to learn.

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Actually, my bad.

I only briefly read your title and I guess I didn't even read any of the post. Ignore what I said, although what I was talking about is a pretty deep (and interesting) rabbit hole.

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What? Why are you apologizing?

You've done nothing wrong.

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Whoever controls the media controls public opinion. Not sure what else you expect as an answer. You seem to be fishing for something like that

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Feelings for stuff I wasn't at or didn't know anyone. I don't understand the question I guess. I never feel a thing. Nada zilch just change the channel to something entertaining instead.