I don't see why it can't be both. Read Thomas and Mary. Even Judas and Enoch if you're up for it. They ought to offer a more detailed perspective. >He revealed the Logos. Man, if you only knew what the ones with overton windows that make ours look feeble think... Your jaw would drop if you had a meaningful perspective of what they know. There was a man called "HLIanon" or High Level Insider anon" shortly in to 2016 that gave some eye opening drops. If there's anything to what the guy told us, which I personally am very fond of, it looks like the Gnostics had been the most accurate in their description for how Yeshua's story developed all along. Frankly, although I can appreciate how Christianity developed, I'm leaning more toward the German idealist perspective combined with the gnostic perspective of Yeshua. Maybe people conflated "divinity" with "divinely inspired" and the translation has never been fixed (or maybe the problem was never noticed). >I too waver, but not on the divinity of Yeshua. I get it, but I've always struggled with the man taking God form thing. Especially since learning more of German idealism, it looks to me like people praised him so highly that it took on a cult following like that of Tesla. If we didn't have rapid advancement surrounding him, his feats may not have been so overlooked. If that were the case, men would undoubtedly have throught of him as a "God like figure" if their window of perspective wasn't so keen from recent advancement like that of the industrial Era. It's just a weird concept for me, especially since learning the truth about Catholics and their propensity for worshipping evil. It's hard to understand what hasn't been tainted and inverted now, which i guess is mostly to blame for my suspicion that we aren't (oops I meant are) *all* inherently divine. See, I'm more fond of the idea that we all share divine consciousness but don't realize it. No matter what, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong or even reasoned away from my views.