It does and I’d say it’s a decent write up but, spends a bit too much time questioning the name.
It does and I’d say it’s a decent write up but, spends a bit too much time questioning the name.
Thought you all might like to read this one. I copied this out of Alexander Cortes's newsletter
3) Shit Tests
In the male sphere a "shit test" is a term for when a woman is supposedly "testing" you by being difficult, hard to get along with, or outright questioning, and she's "testing your frame" by seeing how you react.
Now, while it is entirely true that women "test" men in nearly infinite ways through these behavioral setups, conceptualizing it as a test as always struck me as somewhat fucktarded. Its one of my many issues with "redpill" thinking in general
Describing how people do something versus understanding the psychology of WHY they do it and how they think about, those are two very different things.
I'd almost compare it to watching how a sport is played, say baseball, but being unable to play it. You can describe the structure of the game and the rules, but you've no actual understanding of the dynamics of playing it in real time, the mentality of the players, or the live eb and flow of the game itself.
That's most guys that gravitate hardcore into the manosphere. They're socially brotarded and think they "know" things because they read things.
That said, there are also those men who simply want to improve their social skills and acumen and better understand human nature, so don't think Im throwing everyone under the bus. Wanting to better understand women in order to haver better relationships is not a bad thing at all.
Anyways.
Shit tests. I wouldn't call them shit tests, so much as they are challenges on the woman's part as to if you ARE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE.
She's not "testing" you simply to be difficult. She's questioning whether YOU are bullshitting or not in your behavior and how you act.
It's a test of stability and personality.
And on a deeper level, she's seeing if how you ACT is congruent with how she's trying to figure out and determine how you think (and by extension, what you believe).
Are you who you say you are? Are your actions really You?
If a woman challenges you and you break down or lose your temper, you essentially revealed yourself as being
-Weak willed
-Not really meaning what you say
-Acting out a behavior that isn't really who you are
-Unwilling or afraid to assert yourself
I was a guest on a podcast yesterday talking about this with the host. (The Podcast you can find here)
I used the example of a woman asking a man where they were going to go eat. That isn't really a challenge perse, but its a test of sorts in that she's asking you to CHOOSE something and make a DECISION,
and in the words of Gina, "Be a FUCKING MAN. Im asking you to BE A MAN"
I told some younger gentlemen this at 21Con as well
-If a woman is not "shit testing" you at all, she has ZERO interest in you. And that is BAD if you are in a marriage or a relationship. It means she's mentally zero'ed you out, and you're not interesting to her at all. You are predictable. And when you become predictable and boring is when resentment starts building
Whats the Meta Point to all the above?
Women inherently want men to PERFORM and be something aspirational (unless they're mentally ill feminists, in which case they're all fucked up in the head and their masculine/feminine models of behavior and relationships are miserable shit shows which will ruin every relationship they ever have and they'll be forever selecting shitty men. So stay away from those harpies)
And real talk, if you're a man who holds himself to a high standard and you're mentally very strong, you've likely never had to think about any of this shit. A woman "being difficult" is something you laugh off or you just respond with calmness.
Unfortunately most men today are broken and have the mental maturity of 15 year old boys, hence here we are with me breaking this down.
Anyways, hopefully some of you found this helpful
Moving on
Thought you all might like to read this one. I copied this out of Alexander Cortes's newsletter
**3) Shit Tests**
In the male sphere a "shit test" is a term for when a woman is supposedly "testing" you by being difficult, hard to get along with, or outright questioning, and she's "testing your frame" by seeing how you react.
Now, while it is entirely true that women "test" men in nearly infinite ways through these behavioral setups, conceptualizing it as a test as always struck me as somewhat fucktarded. Its one of my many issues with "redpill" thinking in general
Describing how people do something versus understanding the psychology of WHY they do it and how they think about, those are two very different things.
I'd almost compare it to watching how a sport is played, say baseball, but being unable to play it. You can describe the structure of the game and the rules, but you've no actual understanding of the dynamics of playing it in real time, the mentality of the players, or the live eb and flow of the game itself.
That's most guys that gravitate hardcore into the manosphere. They're socially brotarded and think they "know" things because they read things.
That said, there are also those men who simply want to improve their social skills and acumen and better understand human nature, so don't think Im throwing everyone under the bus. Wanting to better understand women in order to haver better relationships is not a bad thing at all.
Anyways.
Shit tests. I wouldn't call them shit tests, so much as they are challenges on the woman's part as to if you ARE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE.
She's not "testing" you simply to be difficult. She's questioning whether YOU are bullshitting or not in your behavior and how you act.
It's a test of stability and personality.
And on a deeper level, she's seeing if how you ACT is congruent with how she's trying to figure out and determine how you think (and by extension, what you believe).
**Are you who you say you are? Are your actions really You?**
If a woman challenges you and you break down or lose your temper, you essentially revealed yourself as being
-Weak willed
-Not really meaning what you say
-Acting out a behavior that isn't really who you are
-Unwilling or afraid to assert yourself
I was a guest on a podcast yesterday talking about this with the host. (The Podcast you can find here)
I used the example of a woman asking a man where they were going to go eat. That isn't really a challenge perse, but its a test of sorts in that she's asking you to CHOOSE something and make a DECISION,
and in the words of Gina, "Be a FUCKING MAN. Im asking you to BE A MAN"
I told some younger gentlemen this at 21Con as well
-If a woman is not "shit testing" you at all, she has ZERO interest in you. And that is BAD if you are in a marriage or a relationship. It means she's mentally zero'ed you out, and you're not interesting to her at all. You are predictable. And when you become predictable and boring is when resentment starts building
**Whats the Meta Point to all the above?**
Women inherently want men to PERFORM and be something aspirational (unless they're mentally ill feminists, in which case they're all fucked up in the head and their masculine/feminine models of behavior and relationships are miserable shit shows which will ruin every relationship they ever have and they'll be forever selecting shitty men. So stay away from those harpies)
And real talk, if you're a man who holds himself to a high standard and you're mentally very strong, you've likely never had to think about any of this shit. A woman "being difficult" is something you laugh off or you just respond with calmness.
Unfortunately most men today are broken and have the mental maturity of 15 year old boys, hence here we are with me breaking this down.
Anyways, hopefully some of you found this helpful
Moving on
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