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I guess the big 4 can do anything they want as long as they have each other's backs.

I guess the big 4 can do anything they want as long as they have each other's backs.

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[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

They wont deplatform it. They will buy it.

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Ah, the old standard. Buy it, squash it.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

If you remember Facebook acquired WhatsApp after it became popular. I stopped using it then. Had to be around 8-9 years ago.

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I seem to remember a promise to keep the two platforms separate.

https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-closes-19-billion-deal-for-whatsapp/

"Facebook promised that WhatsApp would remain a separate entity."

"The deal still raised privacy concerns from the Federal Trade Commission." ... how about now?

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If you remember when Ellen SImonetti got fired from jetblu because of pictures that got posted on Facebook...I deleted Facebook and when Microsoft bought LinkdIn I deleted that too. Social Media? Open source Intelligence. Providing Data to Banks and Insurance Companies and Law Enforcement . Yeah...if you don't have a VPN you need to be thinking about your online activity in terms of what can they prosecute me for?

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Just some simple reminders.

  1. Nothing on a phone is private or secure.

  2. Signal is secure against ISPs and telecom providers.

  3. Signal is not believed secured against state actors. See point one above.

Please note the recent stories that signal had been hacked. It wasn't and required physical access, which provides unencrypted access to the encrypted data store. Google, apple, and three letters have the ability to directly access anything on your phone. Basically equivalent physical access.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

LineageOS and GrapheneOS both come without Google Play Services or uninstallable spyware like Facebook and Twitter. With the right hardware, they also do their best to defend against attacks from baseband/firmware.

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That's certainly possible. However, you need to understand the application processor is not the primary processor. The primary processor runs a blackbox RTOS and controls the radio. Normally this processor has full access to the same buses. Which means memory, storage, gps, camera, wifi, and microphone. Meaning you can be observed without notice and without an active call. Which also means equivalent physical access.

This is the real story behind 5G and why china was pushing the "dangers" of 5G after they started getting kicked out for national security reasons. They were trying to delay adoption, hoping they could get their spying infrastructure in place instead.

This is also the primary reason physical battery removal is hard to come by now.

Nothing is secure on a phone.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Thanks for elaborating. The technicals align with what I have read elsewhere.

GrapheneOS in particular has a pretty strict definition of what is a "supported device" based on a lot of the same scenarios you mentioned above. I'd certainly be interested in your take:

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

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that is a completely bullshit claim, why should they disable Signal? Its not like it is used by the pro-Trump crowd to spread hate is it?

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I'm of the belief they used Trump as an opportunity to crush competition.

As many have pointed out, the "insurrection" was organised on Facebook, not Parler.

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well they didn't crush the competition, why is GAB still up?

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Patients is a virtue. They have to at least make it look legit. Give them time.

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I don't even know what WatsApp is or does. Some sort of Twitter type of thing?

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It was a somewhat secure messaging app until Facebook bought it.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

A messenger system for foreigners and niggers who can't send or dont understand regular sms.

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SMS is completely insecure. Facebook, WhatsApp and the others have seized on that, claiming end to end encryption on their platforms.

Of course, they likely can read and save your messages.

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*unsecure

Most platforms' notion of end to end encryption means they encrypt it to the provider, the provider decrypts it, and then encrypts it to the destination.

This provides full access to everything passing through it. This is basically Skype's and telegram's encryption models.

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For the places in the world that still don't have phones they can use whatsapp.

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So only sandniggers can organize rebellions.

Tox and Jitsi are open source end to end encrypted messaging systems as well.

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It was also end to end encrypted so it could not be read midstream.

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More like a messenger system.

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its a mobile messenger to replace SMS like imessage, Joyn, Telegram and a few others

It is also owned by Facebook so it is generally hated

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I'd like to see them try justify it,

they could be saying violent things and we might not know where to send our violent people to stop them being violent

now watch the violent movie or play the violent game and shutup goy.

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got rid of jewbook 12 years ago and don't miss it. never did use twatter either.

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Business insider is a peice of shit propaganda shill site.

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People have to learn to stop trusting their security to somebody else. Learn to do things for yourself.

You can still run the original PGP from 30 years ago on any PC. You can encrypt anything with that and transmit it the way you transmit any other digital information. Yes, it's a pain in the ass compared to Signal but security isn't convenient.

Also, learn how to side load apps and teach your friends.

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I thought Signal was bought by Twitter in 2016?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)

Looks like they bought the parent company and then released the code as Open Source.

It's maintained by "Signal Foundation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Foundation

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https://twitter.com/jack/status/1348139031599595522?s=20

jack seemed really excited about it. Just an eyebrow raiser.

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Yeah and nobody asks why Corporations fund non profit and open source projects