Ha! The cult. You get it. I have a very close, lifelong friend, from before AA, that is now like two years sober. He's been to some “outdoor” meetings in his area. It’s getting cold there though. Are they doing them online at all? And if so, does it remain truly anonymous? I do feel for you. I didn’t mean to be a dick. I just have major major resentment toward that stuff. It’s a very long drawn out story. I could type for endless hours about it all. I will give you this positive though, and it’s real. I really did learn good communication skills through it all. From a kid who sat in the back of the class, I can speak publicly from having shared in meetings. I belonged to a large group that had like 28 meetings a week, four a day. I secretaries a few, chaired many, and was even treasurer for the entire group for a short time. I was 18 then. Ask me anything. PM ok.