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Yeah it sounds like we basically agree on the macro level while acknowledging the murkiness of it all. Issue is the celts are first found right were the corded ware were and later germanics, but the old theory is the germanics swept down from the boat axe regions. The more I learn about it the more I see the various branches of the family as very similar to begin with. Like supposedly perun the slavic god was like one or two letters off a common epithet for thor.

I think the Scythians have something to do with the picture too, for much of antiquity the steppe was largerly germanic. There are still places in the crimea with old gothic names for instance. It's kinda wierd because ppl claim the Scythians spoke indo-iranian, but when the huns took over that region a bunch of germanics flooded into and eventually crushed the empire.

The luwians are very interesting also. Had a god name tiwaz and we're fierciely independent and much of europe claims to have come from this region around the time of the bronze age collapse.

I don't think Perun and Thor are related. The only thing I have to go on is the fact that Slavic is a Uralic language which isn't even Indo-European. Maybe there were some cultural ad-mixture, but any position on the topic is highly spurious. Too spurious to make a claim. But, if I were to make a claim, I'd say the similarity is convergent in nature.

As for the steppe being Germanic. No, I don't think that can be bared out. The origin of the Germanic Peoples is clearly the Baltic. Any Germanic influence on the steppe would be due to migration after the fact. Talking about the Goths for instance, that's MUCH later in the story. At that point we are no longer talking about origins of a race. We are talking about conquests of a race.

As for the Scythians, they were Indo-Iranian. So, any common ancestor would probably be the Yamnaya themselves. Much more distantly related than the Germans/Celts.

But, yeah, the Huns kicked the hornet's nest. Things would probably be much clearer if they hadn't pressured the migration period.

Nah man. The links between the Scythians and the Germans in germany at the time of the romans is there. They are synonymous.

You are going to have to explain yourself. The Germans and Scythians are a completely separate people. Even the Romans acknowledged this.