These people can't be reasoned with, they are beyond logic, they are pathological narcissists. Anyone they don't like is a terrorist the police should execute, anyone they support is an oppressed victim the police should leave alone. We're beyond the point of working this out with conversation. There is a divide that cannot be bridged, and these people are going to happily conspire to destroy you and everything you care about, because they think they're morally righteous in doing so. Don't talk to these people, don't work with them, don't help them, don't trade services with them, etc. They are your enemy, and you need to treat them like it, because they would laugh if you died in front of them.