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This is true whether the sacrificing of virgins yields a better crop or not. Either the Aztecs were justified in their savage slaughter by virtue of their thinking that it would save millions from hunger, or the Western dictum that the "ends do not justify the means" is true, and any measures that necessarily harm people are illicit, regardless of the noble ends cited to justify them.

At least for the Aztecs, they only sacrificed a few hundred people to ensure the well-being of millions. We're sacrificing the well-being of millions for the sake of hundreds (or thousands, perhaps).

The point is it doesn't matter what the ratio is. Utilitarianism is bunk, the ends don't justify the means, and necessarily evil means cannot be employed morally, regardless of the end.

This is true whether the sacrificing of virgins yields a better crop or not. Either the Aztecs were justified in their savage slaughter by virtue of their thinking that it would save millions from hunger, or the Western dictum that the "ends do not justify the means" is true, and any measures that *necessarily* harm people are illicit, regardless of the noble ends cited to justify them. At least for the Aztecs, they only sacrificed a few hundred people to ensure the well-being of millions. We're sacrificing the well-being of millions for the sake of hundreds (or thousands, perhaps). The point is it doesn't matter what the ratio is. Utilitarianism is bunk, the ends don't justify the means, and *necessarily evil means* cannot be employed morally, regardless of the end.

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A few hundred people?

Wrong, the sacrificed tens of thousands.

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I mean during any one harvest season, not throughout the entirety of their civilization.

And the numbers are irrelevant to my point anyway.

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then why mention them?

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Because the point leaves a stronger impression if the ratio for Covid is worse than the ratio for the Aztecs, but regardless of which ratio is worse, the fact that evil means are not justified by noble ends remains.

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They sacrificed people for all kinds of crazy reasons. Something like one in six Aztec citizens would end their life as a sacrifice victim.

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The Aztecs balanced their immigration policy pretty well. As for those sacrifices, they held a "foreigners first" rule. Unless they were willing to double down and commit to cannibalism, they were still starving. Funny you never hear hear cannibalism stories regarding the greater ancient societies.

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Accurate. Have a rec.

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Jews lie...

Except for the history jews... I can trust them...

What if ripping out the still beating heart is how they dealt with their leftist??

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Thanks to tinder - there are no Virgins.

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They can still be found attending the Traditional rite of the Catholic Mass.

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I hope so. Coincidentally, just became Catholic last Pentecost. We attend a more conservative Novis Ordo parish. Tried the Latin Mass, couldn't get the family on board. I was happy enough that they followed me into the church.

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Praise God!

I am also currently at a Novus Ordo, as there is not currently a TLM available in my area, but I have been able to attend them before.

I'll say a prayer that your family's faith may grow, regardless of what Mass they attend.