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I don't care if masks work or not.

If you want to change someone's mind, keep it really simple, and to one point.

Don't argue about masks, don't bother making arguments about vaccines, just simply state that the disease is not very deadly, and has a mortality rate of 3 people out of 10,000 if you are under 50 years of age.

It doesn't matter whether masks work or not

It doesn't matter whether the vaccine is safe or dangerous.

What matters is that the disease itself is basically a non-issue to start with.

I don't care if masks work or not. If you want to change someone's mind, keep it really simple, and to one point. Don't argue about masks, don't bother making arguments about vaccines, just simply state that the disease is not very deadly, and has a mortality rate of 3 people out of 10,000 if you are under 50 years of age. It doesn't matter whether masks work or not It doesn't matter whether the vaccine is safe or dangerous. What matters is that the disease itself is basically a non-issue to start with.

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[–] 23 pts

I would go a step further:

We've had a full year now where this issue has been top of mind, all the time. Everyone has had a shot at seeking out the relevant details of the Covid and everyone has had people talk to them about why Covid is a hoax.

Anyone who's going to come to the right conclusions already has. And anyone who's not never will.

Therefore, you should not argue with anyone and instead just listen. If they agree, let them know you're on the same page. If they are in the other camp, just don't even bother trying to persuade them. The relationship may still be useful later in some limited capacity.

[–] [deleted] 16 pts

I find the most persuasive arguments don't introduce new facts but rely on the facts the person already has in their possession.

It's the subtle redpilling that works. Saying that jews run the media and put niggers in commercials will turn most people off. Instead you might casually mention that you're noticing a lot of commercials with blacks or mixed race couples.

[–] 11 pts

Exactly.

I red pilled a guy on the Covid hoax by drawing parallels to the 9/11 terrorist hoax. He understood the 9/11 reaction to be bullshit, and building on that, I was able to show him that Covid is the same kind of scam.

[–] 5 pts

Yeah, but as far as covid? I think at this point anyone who doesn't understand is a totally lost cause. Maybe time will prove me wrong.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Maybe you aren't an office water cooler faggot drone, but lots are. All they hear is COVID on the radio at breakfast and COVID in the car on the way to work and COVID in the elevator and COVID at lunch. It's disgusting.

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The major point I am trying to bring up is that I did not win best Creative Story last year in the Frosties.

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But what facts about the covid hoax do the normies already know?

[–] [deleted] 6 pts

They know the hypocrisy of the government. First we are told that masks don't work. Then we're told that masks are mandatory. Now we're being told that masks don't work again.

15 days to flatten the curve turned into 9 months and counting.

People aren't falling dead on the street despite this supposedly being one of the worst pandemics in history. Do they know a single person that had it or died from it?

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"Why 'dem white bitches always trying to dilute pure black men's seed?"

[–] 4 pts

Doomer much?

If retards can be convinced by the other side, why can't we convince them?

[–] 7 pts

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Because... they're retarded?

Also we are competing with a monstrous hypnosis machine. Do you have a monstrous hypnosis machine?

[–] 2 pts

They are retarded.

Thats why we should be optimistic about being able to convince them.

[–] 3 pts

Correction: If they are in the wrong camp, ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET THE VACCINE. That way there will be less of them.

A girl I know has been trying to conceive for years. Extreme virtue signaller. Her face mask matches her leggings kind of girl. She just posted pictures of herself getting the vaccine. ⚰ xd

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lol

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We need to use the weapons we have available...

[–] 2 pts

Truthfully, I feel a bit more hopeful that people will wake up. Unlike last year, this time we have data. People are so emotionally and financially fatigued that they're starting to think about it. Many of my normie associates are beginning to talk.

It's true that you will never be able to convince people who aren't ready or willing.
It would be a good idea for us to make ourselves available and supportive of anybody questioning. We should not argue with people who indulge in propaganda, I think it makes them sink their heels down further.

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It would be a good idea for us to make ourselves available and supportive of anybody questioning. We should not argue with people who indulge in propaganda, I think it makes them sink their heels down further.

I agree. Glad you're feeling hopeful and I hope you're right about the wake up.

[–] 2 pts

I don’t agree with that assertion. You can always change people’s minds. That’s just quitter talk.

[–] 2 pts

I like your attitude, but I'm dubious. Some portion of people go with the consensus and are uncomfortable entertaining any idea that contradicts it. They inhabit both right and left-wing circles, from what I've seen. Maybe there's a reason it's like this, such as you can't have 100% free-thinking individuals and social cohesion at the same time? Maybe it's genetic?

You're right about not giving up. But recognizing the challenges for what they are is an important part of advancing.

[–] 2 pts

Yes some people want to be controlled no matter how illogical the demands are. It's sadly not possible to save the majority of them. If a ship was sinking and the captain ordered them not board lifeboats but rather stay put and drown, they'll do just that.

[–] 2 pts

Did the jews give up when they were trying to convince everybody that faggotry was great? They were like hell no, let’s destroy christianity and brain wash all the kids through porn and public education. Now we have a month long holiday for asshole sex. Take a lesson from that.

I don’t agree with OP. This is a serious disease. Ive known people that died of it. Its not that serious if you’re under 50. If you’re 60 or older it’s quite serious, and I am not okay with dismissing the deaths of our elderly who are dying years before their time. Ive researched the disease. Ive researched other similar viruses. Ive researched a bunch of drugs and treatments for covid.

Guess what? There’s a cure. The deaths are real. They’re unnecessary. The quaratine measures are a sham to exploit the crisis. They have cheap safe treatments and preventative medications.

I keep telling people there’s a cure. I don’t care if liberals die. I don’t wants decent white people to though. Occassionally I change people’s minds. I also get a lot of flack. 3....2.....1....

I'm starting to think it must be genetic. Generations of simps and weak fsggots who care what others think of them and try to toe the line.

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explain jews then.

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What’s to explain. They just try to brainwash each other and other people 24/7. They never stop. It’s like breathing. We have truth on our side. Don’t give up trying to brainwash people toward your pov.

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Everyone has had a shot at seeking out the relevant details of the Covid and everyone has had people talk to them about why Covid is a hoax.

I fear you underestimate how controlled the information bubble is for normies. Left wing city slickers have likely never heard anything but straw man arguments against covid policy. Some of them can be persuaded by good rhetoric. I like to ask people if they would trust a condom made out of their mask material. If corona was a tennis ball, a sperm cell would be a car.

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Possible. Actually normally I'd agree on this. But when it comes to this particular topic, it's like the only thing everyone has been talking about 24/7. Even city slickers have been reached, I feel. The reason it sounds like they haven't is because every time you give them some "new" information, they get uncomfortable and find some way either not to hear it or forget it.