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Genuinely curious; multiple front-page posts have glaring errors that anyone with a fifth-grade education should have seen.

It is difficult to understand someone's position when they don't take the time to explain it clearly. And if you don't want to take time to state your argument coherently, do you really expect the rest of us to take time sorting through your word vomit to try and see your point?

Or is it okay to speak like joggers here?

-=Edit=- Okay, got it. My question has been answered. Thank you.

Genuinely curious; multiple front-page posts have glaring errors that anyone with a fifth-grade education should have seen. It is difficult to understand someone's position when they don't take the time to explain it clearly. And if *you* don't want to take time to state your argument coherently, do you really expect the rest of us to take time sorting through your word vomit to try and see your point? Or is it okay to speak like joggers here? -=Edit=- Okay, got it. My question has been answered. Thank you.

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I'm guilty of misusing commas all the time. It's because I write like I talk, and use commas more as a pause than as actual commas.

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That's a style of writing and it's quite common. Generally when people start working towards becoming pedantic grammar Nazis it's never a good sign. Next they'll start telling you dumb shit like you aren't even White or you're crazy etc... It's typical demoralization shill tactics and this is how "they" attack the users and not the subject because it's easier. Not sure if OP is one of them and not going to go there anyhow, I'm just saying from my perspective.

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>It's because I write like I talk, and use commas more as a pause than as actual commas.

That's actually what I do. I'm not writing a scientific paper or important research paper. I'm shit posting on Poal.

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You can have my Oxford comma when you pry it from my cold, dead, potato chip and cheetoh dusted, and Christmas sprinkled hands.

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To add to this, English comma rules are a lot (or seem that way) more fast and loose than other languages, such as German.

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Hey,

Whenever someone mentions having an expertise in the use of commas, I ask them to read the eligibility clause of the US Constitution and to tell me, using their mastery, who is actually eligible to be president?

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

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A 14 year U.S. Resident, aged 35, naturally born, or Citizen of U.S., living at the time the Constitution was adopted.

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Fantastic. Now, who was our last eligible president elected to the office?

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I suppose it’d have to be William Harrison, born in 1773. He died after 31 days in office, and was replaced by John Tyler, born in 1790; thus invalidating him from the Office of President.

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It’s also strange that they used the proper nouns: Person, Adoption, Age, Years, and Resident. This indicates an alternative meaning to the common usage, and should be defined. “Years a Resident” is also likely a colorable term.

The Articles of Confederation stated, in Article I, “the stile of this confederacy shall be ‘The United States of America.’” The stile “United States of America” was created by King George III, in the Treaty of Paris, when he implied a principality, and constantly referenced “the said United States” as though it’s been clearly defined previously. It goes on to separate “the said United States, viz., New Hampshire...” which, at first glance, seems to identify the 13 colonies as the said United States; however the commas before and after viz. seem to separate the said United States from the 13 colonies, as though it’s a 14th entity.

We’d need to start by clearly defining “United States.” It is usually defined as the District of Columbia, the insular possessions, and territories. They love to use the term “several States,” but rarely qualify it. When you do find State defined: it is almost always Puerto Rico, the territories, and/or the possessions; and in some cases, the District of Columbia.

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Dude, I asked you to read 1 fuckin ' paragraph and answer a question based on that paragraph.

No need to get all libertarian. Read the paragraph, with the proper usage of commas, and tell me who is eligible to be president.

You gotta know how to use commas to get it right.

Exactly. Its used as pauses to highlight a point.

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Which, apparently, went right past you.

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I do like that you took the risky move of starting a sentence with "and", but actually reiterated the subject in the sentence, making it a proper sentence.

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That's a good position for a semicolon.

clearly. And if

could be reworked as

clearly; If

Or, just a standard comma, as op didn't say 'and' previously.

Either way op has worded that strangly.

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And this sentence could do with the first word. Nothing like correcting people's grammar with a grammatically incorrect rant.

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Crying about grammer on the internet is like standing in the rain and bitching about getting wet

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Right? Fuck I'm just happy if it's coherent and not written like a nigger or teenage valley girl. No whut i mean dawg. Shut up! Lol ur totally funnier than my bff kwim?

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'The Internet' is like paper, it's a medium. Your statement makes no sense.

The post appears very simply as an admonishment to keep some reasonable standard, and a reminder that your readers can more easily actually comprehend what you are trying to get across, if you express in it a way 'fit for purpose.'

You have a quote Suspicious Behavior quote designation semicolon I find that quote suspicious period quote

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Except no one cares about your opinion

are you everyone? i know i certainly don't care about your opinion, but i don't make statements of logical fallacy.

it i also a shame that you don't get humor.

No one pays any regard to posters wearing the scarlet letter. In this case the chartreuse pink (in itself suspicious as a mandela effect as chartreuse is a hue of green/yellow) label of suspicious behavior.

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I fully support grammarkikery. Personally I'm not crazy about the Oxford comma unless it's necessary for clarification, but that's just me.

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whats the point of spending more time on unnecessary punctuation when you can easily understand what im saying with out it

What's the point of spending more time on unnecessary punctuation when you can easily understand what I'm saying with out it.

are you so retarded you cant read the first sentence or do you have some kind of wasting other peoples time fetish? really though, you are being a grammar nazi and this type of shit is why you have no friends

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Precise use of language matters, slacking in this area brings on the decay of language and culture. Meaning is important but also being able to respect the intelligence of your conversation partner is a vital motivator in the exchange, or support of ideas.

In essence: don't be a nigger.

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language evolves over time, meaning is not lost when you remove the unneeded aspects of the language, i am respecting your intelligence but you are not acting in good faith, it sure seems like you are not respecting my intelligence, you are the one dismissing the idea off hand with out thinking about it, you are the one who is unopen to new ideas, im quite happy to debate the evolution of language but your argument does not hold any water

for starters the English language has been bastardized over the centauries so much that most people cant even understand some thing written just a few hundreds of years ago, if you want to argue that my short hand is eroding culture then you will have to admit that you are doing the same thing by writing in modern English

language evolves or write makes right if you prefer, if everyone started writing in old English or Ye Olde English (which is only early in the grand scheme of thing but oh well im making a point) then you can 'reverse the decay of language'

as for precision, your bra1n cun raed dis, it looks silly yes but we have just proved that precision is not needed to get an idea across, all that is needed is enough for your brain to do the heavy lifting for your eyes and fill in the gaps, your brain does not even read the full word most of the time, this is not new, this is basic shit really

so how does the precise use of language really matters, apart from cleaning up that the strippers, hitler, and stalin are separate people

in essence dont be a sheep, if your only argument is that someone else is wrong because of the way they are typing you are not only a complete idiot you may be missing out on a chance to improve your self by engaging with their ideas rather than shooting the idea down due to their spelling or grammar

if that approach did not work why not look at the surnames of people that support a standardized version of english, it seems that you have fallen for the jewish trap again, a single melting pot makes everything the same and loses the unique flavours that are regional dialects

https://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/languages-linguistics/historical-linguistics/standards-english-codified-varieties-around-world?format=AR#bookPeople

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If you're too lazy to write properly, you'll be untrustworthy to those that read you.

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do you believe that writing well = trust worthy?

i find people trust what i say more when i type less formally, people are distrustful of intelligent people and making mistakes puts them at ease, i find that its only those who are very much bellow average that cling on to the stuff op pointed out, is primary school level shit, its not needed but some people will cling on to it because to them its an achievement where as iv learned the rule book, thought about the rules and then disregarded the unneeded rules

at the end of the day most of it is unneeded bullshit that now only exists so stupid can people feel smart when they notice someone not following the pointless rules that they hold in high regarded because that is their intellectual peak, just imagine a debate between a few great philosophers, do you think they are going to give a flying fuck about the punctuation used when trying to elucidate some abstract conceptualization relating to human nature, do you think they sat around the acropolis taking the piss out of the punctuation used? or do you think that they approached the issue like real philosophers and argue in good faith, having some intellectual honesty rather just looking for the easiest way to attack an argument

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They just don't teach English like they used to in Israel.

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Grammatical decline is rampant across all platforms. Whereas a decade ago it was a head shaking tsk tsk delight to find the rare spelling or syntax fuck up in articles of self aggrandized & anointed Papers Of Record (NY Times, Wall Street Journal, Times of London, et al.), today it's just a Tuesday. Bots? Ignorance? Societal decline in G? Race to get copy out immediately, editing be damned? If one can no longer be bothered with even remembering loved ones phone numbers cuz da phone be 'memberin' dat shit, then why burden ones gray matter with the knowledge of the proper placement of dots, dashes or squiggly little marks? Should one display the temerity to call it out, one'll be accused of being a Fancy Pants Book Learnin' College Boy Faggot by double digit IQ Whites and a Privileged Racist Imperialist Toxic White Male Supreme by browns and green haired fat girls.

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I am the editor of a community newsletter and frequently include historical newspaper articles about our town. The typos and misspellings in some of these old newspapers are horrendous. Certainly, the big newspapers-of-record are much better with their typos but damn, some of the old Texas articles are so bad.

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Errors and typos notwithstanding, I love combing through old dailies and periodicals. I delight at the leveled up vocabulary of our forebears while marveling at the rapidity of the linguistic loss. The loathesome Newspeak and denuded expression of thought of The Twatterari are vile fucking anathema.

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Absolutely the modern language gymnastics are appalling. I'm just saying that there are loads of typos in the old papers. It makes sense given the technology available and speed at which a newspaper had to be printed.

If someone has atrocious spelling, grammar word choice, punctuation, capitalization, etc., then I don't want to associate with them really. Some people may not like it, but you can tell a lot about a person's intelligence and the overall effort they put into things by whether they take the time to write and converse correctly.

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Spell check doesn't work in the title input box.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

Okay, maybe that's it.

Makes sense i guess, on voat people would sometimes check their own spelling without needing red squiggly lines. But I guess if nothing points out mistakes, then there's no possible way to identify or correct them.

I guess it'll just take some getting used to.

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How’s that english major working out for you, faggot?

[–] [deleted] 5 pts

High school.

I took high school English.

My question was actually based on elementary school lessons, not anything requiring a "major." Are apostrophes only taught at the college level now? Is that part of Common Core?

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I don’t know where you were looking on Voat. Most of the place was littered with typos and unclear grammar.

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