The biggest problem we have now is the right’s love for police. Without the compliant right showing such respect for cops, we could’ve already said fuck this lockdown

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What they are enforcing now is neither law nor order.

It's called ruling under color of law.

Which is to say they use law as pretense to justify doing whatever the hell they want.

And the police enforce it mostly out of habit because muh job.

The old saying "convincing someone of something is near impossible when their job depends on them being willfully oblivious", is not a joke. It's the literal truth.

They are always going to be a threat to any organization, any political movement, any group, always, even when the individual officers who join believe in the cause, because, heres why:

The presence of officers and officials of the state in any organization 1. acts as an organizing force, 2. a force multiplier, 3. and MOST important of all, is politically legitimizing, which means the groups existence now threatens the legitimacy of the state, however small. Reports and leaks from alphabet soup agencies say they target any group or even individuals regardless of size, basing their targeting criteria solely on the potential of a group or organization to grow. And it makes sense if you think about it. The one thing which is explicitly a felony for them to do, the one thing they ardently deny, engaging in political suppression, is one the core activities of these agencies. And really there should be a whole campaign against them just for this, uniting leftwingers and rightwingers on this very grievance.

But more specifically, having agents and officers of the state in your organization doesn't just make you a target of the state, but makes them targets of the state in particular. These are the guys with a lot to lose, a cushy job, pensions, the respect of their position (whatever is left), the authorities they are afforded. These are the guys who are expected to be most politically neutral, so it would be easy to destroy their careers and reputations if they refused to cooperate in infiltrating or destroying a political organization they are a part of.

And thats why you can't have them in your movement. If any officers support a cause, or political organization, the best they can do really is to affiliate with it, and provide whatever input, training, or intelligence they can, from the position they are already in, via a 'citizens reporting/whistleblower' type system.

It is why the police element of, for example, the oathkeepers, will inevitably be their downfall, likewise the three percenters.

What they are enforcing now is neither *law nor order*. It's called *ruling* under *color of law*. Which is to say they use law as pretense to justify doing whatever the hell they want. And the police enforce it mostly out of habit because muh job. The old saying "convincing someone of something is near impossible when their job depends on them being willfully oblivious", is not a joke. It's the literal truth. They are always going to be a threat to any organization, any political movement, any group, always, even when the individual officers who join believe in the cause, because, heres why: The presence of officers and officials of the state in any organization 1. acts as an organizing force, 2. a force multiplier, 3. and MOST important of all, is politically *legitimizing*, which means the groups existence now threatens the *legitimacy* of the *state*, however small. Reports and leaks from alphabet soup agencies say they target any group or even individuals **regardless of size**, basing their targeting criteria **solely** on the **potential** of a group or organization to grow. And it makes sense if you think about it. The one thing which is explicitly a felony for them to do, the one thing they ardently *deny*, engaging in political suppression, is one the core activities of these agencies. And really there should be a whole campaign against them just for this, uniting leftwingers and rightwingers on this very grievance. But more specifically, having agents and officers of the state in your organization doesn't just make you a target of the state, but makes **them** targets of the state in particular. These are the guys with a lot to lose, a cushy job, pensions, the respect of their position (whatever is left), the authorities they are afforded. These are the guys who are expected to be *most* politically neutral, so it would be easy to destroy their careers and reputations if they refused to cooperate in infiltrating or destroying a political organization they are a part of. And thats why you can't have them in your movement. If any officers support a cause, or political organization, the best they can do really is to affiliate with it, and provide whatever input, training, or intelligence they can, from the position they are *already* in, via a 'citizens reporting/whistleblower' type system. It is why the police element of, for example, the oathkeepers, will inevitably be their downfall, likewise the three percenters.

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