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And yet it is all based on BELIEF. All they need is for you to believe that piece of paper has a value. It has NO value whatsoever but the fact you believe (be-lie-ve) the lie is what keeps them in control.

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What determines the value of a currency is what you can buy with it, nothing more

You can have all the gold in the world, if nobody accepts it as payment, it's worthless

You can eventually sell it to for industrial use yeah, and get "worthless paper" in exchange with which you can buy stuffs...

It's not for random reason if petrodollar is worth murdering millions for

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrocurrency

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Petrodollar

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Will_Iran_Kill_the_Petrodollar%3F

I put the wikispooks links because the normal wiki links aren't straight forward enough for my taste, "you don't need to twist your ass to shit straight"

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"What do you mean nobody accepts gold as payment? Everybody does! It's good money!"

Hm.

Try to pay with gold at the supermarket, the dumbass cashier will say no, because he doesn't know if he has the right to accept it, and doesn't know how to put it in his cash register, nor how much it's really worth, nor how much he's supposed to give in change

I know it's dumb but that's reality

Your best chance is that he isn't dumb, buys your gold with his cash, and then you give him the cash to pay for the goods...

And of course that's without considering a case in which .gov has banned gold ownership

If you think that can't happen think again

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Tracy Twyman wrote a great book called Money Grows on the Tree of Knowledge. The history of money, the occult origin of the dollar symbol, how the Knights Templar essentially invented the banking system, the arcane magic at work in the federal reserve, the social security system and more. She was suicided a few months ago, may she haunt those who killed her relentlessly.

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>Throughout history, ALL nations that have allowed their financial systems to be usurped by criminal debt usury, have always collapsed due to the crushing effect of accumulated debt.

Rockefellers and JP Morgan weren't jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._P._Morgan#Panic_of_1907

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Morgan%2C_Sam.jpg/220px-Morgan%2C_Sam.jpg

The Panic of 1907 was a financial crisis that almost crippled the American economy. Major New York banks were on the verge of bankruptcy and there was no mechanism to rescue them, until Morgan stepped in to help resolve the crisis.[25][26] Treasury Secretary George B. Cortelyou earmarked $35 million of federal money to deposit in New York banks.[27] Morgan then met with the nation's leading financiers in his New York mansion, where he forced them to devise a plan to meet the crisis. James Stillman, president of the National City Bank, also played a central role. Morgan organized a team of bank and trust executives which redirected money between banks, secured further international lines of credit, and bought up the plummeting stocks of healthy corporations.[25]

A delicate political issue arose regarding the brokerage firm of Moore and Schley, which was deeply involved in a speculative pool in the stock of the Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company. Moore and Schley had pledged over $6 million of the Tennessee Coal and Iron (TCI) stock for loans among the Wall Street banks. The banks had called the loans, and the firm could not pay. If Moore and Schley should fail, a hundred more failures would follow and then all Wall Street might go to pieces. Morgan decided they had to save Moore and Schley. TCI was one of the chief competitors of U.S. Steel and it owned valuable iron and coal deposits. Morgan controlled U.S. Steel and he decided it had to buy the TCI stock from Moore and Schley. Elbert Gary, head of U.S. Steel, agreed, but was concerned there would be antitrust implications that could cause grave trouble for U.S. Steel, which was already dominant in the steel industry. Morgan sent Gary to see President Theodore Roosevelt, who promised legal immunity for the deal. U.S. Steel thereupon paid $30 million for the TCI stock and Moore and Schley was saved. The announcement had an immediate effect; by November 7, 1907, the panic was over. The crisis underscored the need for a powerful oversight mechanism.[25]

Vowing to never let it happen again, and realizing that in a future crisis there was unlikely to be another Morgan, in 1913 banking and political leaders, led by Senator Nelson Aldrich, devised a plan that resulted in the creation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913.[28]

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Ok that's for the official story

Now here's another angle:

https://www.corbettreport.com/federalreserve/

Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve

John Pierpont Morgan, or “Pierpont,” as he prefers to be called, is born in Hartford, Connecticut, in 1837 to Junius Spencer Morgan, a successful banker and financier. Morgan rides his father’s coattails into the banking business and by 1871 is partnered in his own firm, the firm that was eventually to become J.P. Morgan and Company.

It is Morgan who finances Cornelius Vanderbilt’s New York Central Railroad. It is Morgan who finances the launch of nearly every major corporation of the period, from AT&T to General Electric to General Motors to DuPont. It is Morgan who buys out Carnegie and creates the United States Steel Corporation, America’s first billion-dollar company. It is Morgan who brokers a deal with President Grover Cleveland to “save” the nation’s gold reserves by selling 62 million dollars worth of gold to the Treasury in return for government bonds. And it is Morgan who, in 1907, sets in motion the crisis that leads to the creation of the Federal Reserve.

That year, Morgan begins spreading rumors about the precarious finances of the Knickerbocker Trust Company, a Morgan competitor and one of the largest financial institutions in the United States at the time. The resulting crisis, dubbed the Panic of 1907, shakes the US financial system to its core. Morgan puts himself forward as a hero, boldly offering to help underwrite some of the faltering banks and brokerage houses to keep them from going under. After a bout of hand-wringing over the nation’s finances, a Congressional Committee is assembled to investigate the “money trust,” the bankers and financiers who brought the nation so close to financial ruin and who wield such power over the nation’s finances. The public follows the issue closely, and in the end a handful of bankers are identified as key players in the money trust’s operations, including Paul Warburg, Benjamin Strong, Jr., and J.P. Morgan.

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Granted, there were jews and not just one or two (warburg, rothschild, on top of my head) other than morgan and rockefellers

But still

A bunch of goyz also made a killing, and they were very aware about what they were doing, let's not forget that

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It was revealed when JP Morgan died that he owned only 17% of JP Morgan Bank. The other 83% belonged to Rothschilds. So he was essentially a lackey for them. I have read about the Rothschilds possibly funding Rockefeller in the early stages as well, but haven't stumbled upon any concrete evidence of this.

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It is more than certain that Rotschilds are at the core of the banking fuckery, jekyll island episode aside in 1910 at morgan's ( https://youtu.be/CAYkmutzcrU?t=1142 mandatory cartoon for everybody, contains all one needs to know about rotschild and fractional reserve banking, the FED, the whole fuckery)

Since they literally invented modern banking to begin with

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking#Rothschilds

The Rothschild family pioneered international finance in the early 19th century. The family provided loans to the Bank of England and purchased government bonds in the stock markets.[179] Their wealth has been estimated to possibly be the most in modern history.[180]

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But what this sanatized version doesn't tell, is that they (Nathan) literally took over the british economy in 1815 with what is now called "insider trading"

THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHIb8o8BNdc

Confirmed here https://www.businessinsider.com/the-early-rothschilds-built-a-fortune-2012-12

Nathan was stone-faced hearing this incredible news, and proceeded to sell stock in order to trick others into thinking that Britain had lost. When the dust settled, Nathan's agents had picked up even more stock at a discount in a huge profit-making day for the family.

Sources: New York Times, Wall Street Journal

Nathan pioneered the ingenious strategy of lending to governments during wartime.

This tactic, used when Nathan funded Wellington's army in 1814, is the primary cause of the explosion in the family's wealth during what proved to be 150 years of nearly chronic warfare. From 500,000 pounds in 1818, the Rothschilds' wealth rose to 4,330,333 pounds in just a decade while this strategy was implemented across the family branches.

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Yeah, "ingenious", to say the least... Full picture of what this boils down to here https://youtu.be/h_ZpXyrFSds?t=85 (probably the most instructive piece of film on the matter)

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Back to business insider's article:

Without stepping foot in the New World, the Rothschild Family dominated international finance

Niall Ferguson outlines the sheer scale of the Rothschild family's operations:

"For most of the nineteenth century, N M Rothschild was part of the biggest bank in the world which dominated the international bond market. For a contemporary equivalent, one has to imagine a merger between Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, J P Morgan and probably Goldman Sachs too — as well, perhaps, as the International Monetary Fund, given the nineteen-century Rothschild's role in stabilizing the finances of numerous governments."

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BAM

Also, vatican got fucked over by the same types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_loans_to_the_Holy_See

Whether the loan had any significant effect on the relationship between Catholicism and Judaism is debated. Despite his approval of the loan across religious lines, Pope Gregory XVI was opposed to what he called religious indifferentism and upheld Catholic orthodoxy in such matters in encyclicals such as Mirari vos.[14]. Through Klemens von Metternich, Chancellor of Austria as an intermediary,[15] the Rothschilds asked the Pope for a number of concessions towards Jews living in the Papal dominions,[16] such as the Ancona Jews, but the requests were declined.

That said, nothing happens for no reason https://www.jewishhistory.org/the-rothschilds/

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I think it's incredible that you say Rockefeller and Warburg were not Jews

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What I find incredible, is that you managed to read that warburg wasn't a jew while I explicitly wrote he was

That, is trully incredible

Also, you didn't bother to back any of your claims with facts, links

Which renders your claims above as just a piece of opinion, which in turn, is by definition, useless for the readers looking for solid arguments

And no, John D Rockefeller's mother wasn't jewish, hence, he wasn't a jew

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller#Religious_views

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I have asked someone for information about this, then I pass here

unfortunately money is the only thing that is making you or me do anything to help people we don't know or will ever want to know.

I do agree that it is a scheme though.

And this scheme needs to be run by European people - not Christian and European hating Jew Scum.

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It is not totally true. We have been enslaved by the Jews for thousands of years because they have always been the tax collectors and those who have always controlled the machine for printing money with debt. We must remember that the United States like all countries has history Jewish since the Jews created it. Keep in mind that the freemasons are Jewish and the US and its constitution was Jewish creation. With the old gold standard it was the Jews who also controlled the money supply and possessed the monopoly of that money and Wealth was only a change of vehicle to mislead the goyim. Now the Jew wants to close central banks and create another system that will remain the same controlled by them but as I said before they simply change vehicles to remain in power without the goyim knows that he is his slave. No one here is considering giving the country of the goyim power to make money without interest or debt, to be spent on circulation and that all people can They use it and live in abundance and without slavery. The owners of the system are Jews and politicians too, and none of them will renounce Jewish rule over humanity. It is all about power, control and division to distract and deceive

https://ibb.co/4mdcykJ

. No one here is considering giving the country of the goyim power to make money without interest or debt, to be spent on circulation and that all people can They use it and live in abundance and without slavery. The owners of the system are Jews and politicians too, and none of them will renounce Jewish rule over humanity. It is all about power, control and division to distract and deceive

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