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[–] [deleted] 2 pts (edited )

I always wanted that saying to refer to the loved ones who didn't make a suicide pact with the suicider.

Suicider? Sounds like a great drink name.

[–] 2 pts

Suicides who take others with them are generally sacks of shit. I'd like a few suiciders. Dude. Cider. Suicider? Taste so good you will kill yourself when you run out.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I'm basically saying that I think the victims are the ones who are left to deal with the lose of that one who killed themself.

If someone wants to die, so be it. But if anyone loved them they are the victims.

[–] 1 pt

I just dont see it. I see that it causes grief but victim implies a suicide wronged those around them. Hurt emotionally sure. Can you elaborate on why you say loved ones are a victim?