All science is open for questioning. Some science is settled. But ask away!!
the science is settled sounds like something the ministry of truth might say. are there any experiments which demonstrate earths curvature or motion? please point me in the direction of them.
Next time you're in a jet at 36,000' on a clear day, observe the horizon is about 3-1/2° below level. You need a level reference such as a water surface or pendulum, you need to be unaccelerated so level is referenced to gravity, and it must be clear enough to actually see a land horizon. This observation checks with the trig where the diameter of a sphere is about 4000 n.m. and you are 6 n.m. above it.
Another observation you can make is that converging air traffic at a lower altitude will appear above the horizon when distant. Level traffic 1000' below when you're in the 30's will cross the horizon at just over 3 miles distance before passing under you. This is consistent with the horizon being below horizontal because you're looking down at a sphere.
Another is that climbing at sunset will make the sun rise again. This is consistent with sphere shape of earth and you peeking over the hump.
Yet another is that a tall tree or radio tower that is below you will appear above the horizon when distant. A tree on the horizon literally stands above it.
Yet another is that ships on the level sea surface disappear from the bottom-up as they sail away.
Water level check, excellent. That's an easy one anyone can do. Even phone camera apps have options to show the horizon based on the orientation sensor.
Yet another is that ships on the level sea surface disappear from the bottom-up as they sail away.
There are endless terrible YouTube videos claiming to show otherwise.
Ships do not disappear over the curve. they can be brought back into focus using a powerful lens. there are videos available showing this. Rising in height will naturally allow you to see further, but distant vision is limited by atmospheric occlusion and the resolution our eyes can see at. Part of what i find so strange about this whole argument is people typically refer to moving lights in the sky to determine the shape and movement of the ground below our feet. Shouldnt there be a better way? Perhaps measuring the physical curvature or motion instead of relying on so called distant lights?
lol,, cute. Why are you asking me this stuff? If you're interested in that flat earth stuff feel free to do your own research.
you said ask away... I already know the answers though. im prodding you to see the reaction.
Well, the speed of light is settled. So much so that nothing in our universe can exceed the speed of light. Another way of saying speed of light is causality. Our universe has a maximum causality speed and that is settled science.
Also, settled science is really not what it sounds like. Settled science sounds like a pantheon of uber mench get together and just agree on things. Settle science, for anything that can be settled like the speed of causality, just means that the precision with which we can measure the specific claims and predictions being made are so precise that the likelyhood of them actually ever being proven wrong is so close to zero as to be insignificant for the purposes of making additional claims.
Settled science is just a statement about the tolerance of the measurements being made, not really about agreement between humans in lab coats.
However, yes, a lot of people use the term in the way you suggest, as we have seen with the claims around social science, global warming and the gene therapy disaster they pushed out.
I understand that some science is so thorough and precise that anyone challenging it will have a difficult time. My issue arises with UFOs. They display capabilities that are clearly outside the boundaries of what we would consider scientifically possible with our current understanding of physics. Does this mean humans have a fundamentally flawed concept of the universal physics we study? What if that flaw, when corrected, requires an entire rewriting of our physics laws? Is it perhaps just a new physics, undiscovered as of yet? If thats the case, how can we claim to know with any certainty what we claim to know? We lack the complete picture.
I also find it strange the pushback one receives anywhere when questioning the shape and motion of earth. Theres a level of dogma people adhere to, often being completely ignorant to the specifics of their own arguments they make in support of their beliefs. And the ones who can capably debate the issue, all refuse to answer: where is the curve and where is the motion?
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