Yep, grew up on a farm, but I can remember it being okay here in the city up until like five years ago. Sometimes I'd whip up Duncan Hines chocolate cake mix, and not make the cake! Just fill up dessert cups with cake batter, and eat like pudding. Can't do that anymore. Even though I got access to a couple Farmers Markets, I still wouldn't risk it. Tried the egg substitute in a small carton, but makes nasty cake batter.