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[–] 11 pts

Most weren't "antivaxxers"

I wasn't, but as you said, it was suspicious how quick this came out for a disease that seemed to be hysterically killing people in the strangest of ways.

Was I an anti-vaxxer? No. Am I now? You better believe it, brother.

[–] 9 pts

to me, the giveaway was that the producers requested and obtained a TOTAL immunity from prosecution from side-effects

you do not need to be any kind of scientist to guess that what goes into your body is no good at all

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Well, yes and no. From a purely risk aversion standpoint, it would make sense. The government was asking these companies to make a vaccine in record time and was willing to withdraw many of the usual safety protocols in order to make it possible. The vax companies wouldn’t agree to this unless they were also able to escape liability if/when the removal of those protocols proved to be problematic.

From a purely business and liability standpoint, it makes total sense. I don’t even blame them for that particular thing, but then there’s plenty of other awful things to blame them for as it relates to everything that’s happened. They lied over and over, the idea that they don’t have to release the “real data” for 75 years, the obvious fraud, the lying about side affects and percentages, and then the idea that people were forced to take an experimental drug (which is ultimately on the government)…there’s plenty of legit reasons that they should be hanging from lampposts..

But making an experimental medication available to someone with informed consent - not FORCING THEM - should be allowed, in my opinion. And if it’s not coerced, and everything is on the up and up, the the user assumes responsibility if it doesn’t go so well. But that’s a very specific scenario, and that’s not what happened, though we were sold on the idea that such a scenario is what we’d be dealing with.

It was a bait and switch that killed people.

[–] 0 pt

you are just repeating the propaganda, it is really ingrained into your mind

what is propaganda ? a message that is designed to overcome other, opposite, messages

in this case, the main message is that companies had no confidence whatsoever on the product they made

no INFORMED consent is valid in this case, since there is NOTHING solid that will show you that the magic liquid is safe and effective

[–] 0 pt

Another thing is that with the R&D being paid for by governments, the pharma companies should have (as a condition of their contract) been forced to supply the therapy at cost, with maybe a tiny fixed profit margin. The pharma companies took zero risk and gained patented therapies that they could sell at massive profit to a captive and forced market.

They not only killed people, they made a killing doing it.

[–] 7 pts

And they still call it a vaccine when it doesn't prevent infection or spread.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] 1 pt

I didnt get any of my kids vaccinated so ill say im antivax, and i sure as hell dont regret that.