It could have been worse
It could have been worse
Just tried to post this but you beat me to it.
Riddle me this. So in this article they state there were roughly 22,000 people in the group that received death shot and another 22,000 in the control group that received SALINE. They don't address this in the article but HOW DID ANYONE DIE in the control group because SALINE should not kill you. Just saying. This makes me think there was more than saline in that solution.
"It also reported 15 of the roughly 22,000 people who received the vaccine in the trial had died, compared to 14 of the 22,000 people who received placebo (a saline shot that didn’t contain the vaccine)."
Just tried to post this but you beat me to it.
Riddle me this. So in this article they state there were roughly 22,000 people in the group that received death shot and another 22,000 in the control group that received SALINE. They don't address this in the article but HOW DID ANYONE DIE in the control group because SALINE should not kill you. Just saying. This makes me think there was more than saline in that solution.
"It also reported 15 of the roughly 22,000 people who received the vaccine in the trial had died, compared to 14 of the 22,000 people who received placebo (a saline shot that didn’t contain the vaccine)."
There's an image from the report that outlines what the deaths were in each group.
The data from the report is sloppy record keeping, but I found this statement (from the author of the column) to be particularly interesting:
Further, nine vaccine recipients had died from cardiovascular events such as heart attacks or strokes, compared to six placebo recipients who died of those causes. The imbalance was small but notable, considering that regulators worldwide had found that the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines were linked to heart inflammation in young men.
Ideally, if there's nothing wrong with what you're testing, deaths would be roughly equal in both categories. 6 and 9 out of 44,000 total participants is somewhat statistically insignificant, but it (to me) would indicate that it's something to be looked at later. If you add the known data of heart problems as evidenced by countries stopping the injections for younger people, this should have been a smoking gun that something was amiss and needed further investigation. They (the FDA) obviously didn't want to do that and went ahead and approved the stuff, probably just rubber stamping whatever came across their desk.
There's an image from the report that outlines what the deaths were in each group.
The data from the report is sloppy record keeping, but I found this statement (from the author of the column) to be particularly interesting:
> Further, nine vaccine recipients had died from cardiovascular events such as heart attacks or strokes, compared to six placebo recipients who died of those causes. The imbalance was small but notable, considering that regulators worldwide had found that the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines were linked to heart inflammation in young men.
Ideally, if there's nothing wrong with what you're testing, deaths would be roughly equal in both categories. 6 and 9 out of 44,000 total participants is somewhat statistically insignificant, but it (to me) would indicate that it's something to be looked at later. If you add the known data of heart problems as evidenced by countries stopping the injections for younger people, this should have been a smoking gun that something was amiss and needed further investigation. They (the FDA) obviously didn't want to do that and went ahead and approved the stuff, probably just rubber stamping whatever came across their desk.
Agreed. And my point is how did anyone die of heart attack or stroke from the placebo group. Odd to say the least.
Agreed. And my point is how did anyone die of heart attack or stroke from the placebo group. Odd to say the least.
People die of that kind of thing all the time. That it happened isn't really suspicious - especially in the USA where ~600,000 people die of heart related issues every year - that they tried to fudge the numbers tells all.
People die of that kind of thing all the time. That it happened isn't really suspicious - especially in the USA where ~600,000 people die of heart related issues every year - that they tried to fudge the numbers tells all.
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