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How in the hell has no one taken this point to public forum? If it is strictly therapeutic, then 1) it is definitively not a vaccine and should never be defined as one and 2) all tax dollars spent on registries and coercion is an egregious and fraudelent waste!

How in the hell has no one taken this point to public forum? If it is strictly therapeutic, then 1) it is definitively not a vaccine and should never be defined as one and 2) all tax dollars spent on registries and coercion is an egregious and fraudelent waste!

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[–] 9 pts

It doesn't matter how many times you say it, these fucktard sheep literally cannot comprehend the truth when they see it with their own eyes. I have seen it happen, me showing them information from the fucking manufacturer of this poison, and them denying it, telling me to stop killing people, bringing up some mainstream media fact checking article to rebut me... FFS... you literally just saw me going to the ACTUAL MANUFACTURER to get the details and you tell me it's not real and bring up some random article from a news website that has literally nothing to do with the company??? They can't see it... they just can't. It just does not matter how much you throw at them. THEY. CAN'T. SEE. IT.

[–] 3 pts

They can't see it... they just can't.

Because they don't want to see it. Once they know, they have to take responsability and make a decision; and that is too much for them.

[–] 2 pts

telling me to stop killing people,

There is the key- emotion. Fear, specifically, has been found to be the most effective means to brainwash a person. Propaganda is effectively delivered by first eliciting an extreme emotion from the audience, then WHAM immediately hit them with your bullshit message.

I heard a great example from that movie Bird Box. Blackpilled on Bitchute made a video where he reviewed it, and he showed this fear propaganda in action. There's a scene where a woman is walking through a hospital, all seems well, then WHAM jumpscare as a crazy infected demon woman slams herself into a window, spewing blood all over the glass with a crazed expression on her face, all accompanied by a typical horror jump-scare musical sting. Then, the scene cuts jarringly to the next one- immediately showing a White woman having sex with a nigger. There are multiple examples like this that you can find.

My point is, we are trying to appeal to people who are literally hysterical by using our "facts". They are hysterical because they have been living in mortal terror for over a year, and the enormous amount of change that happened so rapidly over the last decade has created a very fearful environment. This is why the plandemic was so effective. This is why they made up bullshit "science" by claiming "masks don't protect you, they protect other people from you"- this perfectly frames people who don't want to wear masks as villains to these mortally terrified people.

This is something we can't understate. EVERYONE THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE A REAL PANDEMIC, REAL MASS DEATHS, ANY DAY NOW, BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENTS KEPT TELLING US HOW HORRIBLE THE PANDEMIC WAS GOING. So we have to keep in mind that we're speaking to people who genuinely believed (out of stupidity or w/e) that they narrowly survived an invisible death, and so did you- and they know someone who knows a friend of a cousin who died of covid. So you're immediately an asshole for calling bullshit. It's all so tiresome.

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Yes always a friend of a friend, a lady claimed in a comment section she knew 8 people who had died covid, it’s real and stop dismissing it. When asked who they were she went silent.

I have a cousin that works at a big box store, no safety precautions until July of 2020, thousand of people through the door and registers a day and they had maybe 5 people get sick up to now.

Unfortunately 3 months ago one guy who had diabetes died in the hospital, his wife and daughter both survived.

So out of hundreds of thousands of potential exposures over a year he finally caught it. How contagious can it be when you’re handling the products and breathing the same air as thousands of people even with a mask on.

If it was as deadly as they claimed we’d be on the 20th set of new hires in retail or the government would be handing out food in hazmat suits.

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Unfortunately 3 months ago one guy who had diabetes died in the hospital, his wife and daughter both survived.

So let's say you get the flu. You feel like shit, you've had it before, it's pretty bad, you're bedridden. But then the government and media are constantly telling you "THERE IS A DANGEROUS, DEADLY VIRUS THAT WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR GRANDPARENTS! IT HAS THE SAME SYMPTOMS AS THE FLU! GET TESTED!"

So you're like "Holy shit, am I dying?" You get a test, and these tests are absolute bullshit- your results come back positive. You now believe, genuinely, that you have a disease that is GOING TO KILL YOU and possibly your family. Your body dumps massive amounts of cortisol (the stress hormone) into your system. This drastically weakens your immune system as you are living in constant terror. Your symptoms of the flu worsen. You are not allowed to be around friends/family, so you are miserable, weakening your body even further. On top of all that, you have the 'betes, so your body is already constantly struggling not to fucking die because you ate too much/too little.

Now, your flu has developed into pneumonia, and you are hospitalized and quarantined. You are placed on extremely potent antibiotics to fight the pneumonia, while the flu virus continues to ravage your body. Soon, you lack the strength to breathe on your own. "This is really it, it's over for me, I'm going to die, who is going to take care of my children/wife?" The immense stress finally breaks your body completely, and they stick you on a ventilator. A few days later, you die due to suffocation.

But yeah it's covid that killed you, not the hysterical fear that the media, government, and collectively terrified masses put into you. You went from "I've got a flu" to "OMG I'M GOING TO FUCKING DIE THIS PANDEMIC IS KILLING EVERYONE AHHHH HELP ME!!" If you don't think that living in that kind of stress, especially long term (like a year or more) doesn't have a terrible effect on the body, you are a fool who is beyond helping.

If it was as deadly as they claimed

All of the homeless people would be dead. They weren't social distancing and wearing masks- they were sharing needles and sodomizing each other behind dumpsters. Africa and all of the other shithole countries of the world require the entire Western world to come and rescue them when they have a bad malaria outbreak- BUT SOMEHOW THEY FUCKING SURVIVE 2020 WITH A HIGHER POPULATION THAN THEY HAD IN 2019?! HOW!? They should be fucking DEVASTATED.

That last bit is a great argument to use on covid believers. They'll try to talk around it, but don't let them- keep reminding them that the average life span of an African man is 46 years old because everything sucks so badly there- but that didn't change even after a whole year of covid rampaging around the world.

[–] 2 pts

I will never understand the trust people place in journalists. At a basic level a journalist is a person who, having completed their schooling, attended a tertiary education facility in order to... learn to express themselves through the medium of the written word. That’s it, they spend four years in order to specialise in a discipline in which the vast majority can already be considered expert by their early teenage years. They have no expertise in any area, their job is to try and interpret complex information and simplify it for people unable to comprehend the complex information, but there is no reason to believe the journalist is any better able to understand the complex information than the reader. It’s fools being led by the foolish. You can get pissed off at the likes of Fauci or whoever for inconsistency or dishonesty or whatever but at least he has to be acting maliciously in order to disseminate false information; journalists just need to be ignorant and/or stupid to disseminate false information. And we have a few decades of evidence of journos being ignorant and/or stupid. Yet still so many treat these morons as high priests. I find it so strange.

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Fun Fact - I was a journalist. I had zero qualifications. I used to take pictures for the newspaper (also had zero qualification, was just good at photography) and one day got introduced to some people from a national tv station and they gave me a job. I was young, pretty, and stupid. The money helped me pay for university (nurse/paramedic), and to raise my kids after my husband died. Anyway, it's 90% bullshit, 10% truth in my experience. You purposely have to ramp everything up and make it as dramatic as you can.

[–] 0 pt

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”

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We should all be encouragimg these brain dead idiots to get ALL of the vaccines for super virtue signaling credentials. Let them get the whole cocktail. Pfizer, moderna, j&j, just sit back and laugh as the sheep die off. If one vaccine is good, 3 is better, right?

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even after suffering the side effects from it they'll still defend it lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/comments/o2s2re/anyone_deal_with_ongoing_symptoms_months_after/

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That’s hilarious and I bet these are the same people who freak out if someone gets a flu shot or asks them why they won’t get one. “I get sick for a few days and it causes X” but I’ll take an experimental vaccine with no long term safety data “BECAUSE” and if you don’t you’re part of the problem why we’re still locked down.

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And another point these people will dismiss anyone suffering. I belong to an autoimmune group for a family member and a lot of them are having serious side effects, most have stopped posting other said joint the Facebook group and ask and then their post immediately gets deleted “no vaccine side effect talk”.

In the group though I’ve heard every excuse they love to throw around the term “victim blaming” but they’re the biggest victim blamers around.

One lady even stated even though the person started feeling ill immediately after the shot and it’s only gotten worse and has had multiple hospital visits and tests over the last four months that the sick woman probably caught something from just having her windows open or walking outside because that’s what her doctor told her was going on with all these people complaining that the vaccine was making them sick.

Clown world. Maybe they’re trying to delude themselves since they’re also scared of what may happen to them long term.

[–] 5 pts

It has a different effect caused by a different mechanism and it's made of different substances by a different manufacturing process buuuuuut it's the exact same thing as a vaccine because a science priest called it a vaccine.

It's simple transubstantiation dude just read your science bible.

[–] 5 pts

vaccine Pronunciation /vakˈsēn/ /vækˈsin/

Translate vaccine into Spanish NOUN

1A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

The very definition says there would have to be immunity to the disease. These treatments don’t give immunity.

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Nor do they not induce the disease.

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True.

Also from the Cambridge dictionary:

a substance containing a virus or bacterium in a form that is not harmful, given to a person or animal to prevent them from getting the disease that the virus or bacterium causes:

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COVID-19 is not the bioweapon. The vax is.

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We live in a post reality world.

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Clownworld is post modernism in practice.

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You're setting yourself up for submission when the narrative changes again, it doesn't matter what they claim it does or does not do, there's still no grounds for centralized coercion.

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I think some of you guys get lost in the weeds on this subject.

Vaccines don’t really prevent infection completely, they prevent disease— a clinical case of a viral illness, typically with symptoms and higher rates of transmissability.

Even when a vax “works”, a virus can still get in to your airways or G.I. tract and start reproducing in a few cells —infection.

But with strong immunity, the body will quickly respond by producing antibodies and neutralizing the virus before you notice symptoms or the viral load reaches “contagious” quantities. When viral levels are very low, the chance of spreading the virus is extremely small. As viruses begin to replicate, the probability of infecting someone else increases.

Dont think of viral infection as a binary yes/no infected/not infected event. Think of it as a continuous probability curve of low to high potential to become symptomatic or spread the virus.

The vaccine is producing a high immunity for one specific protein, the spike protein on the original sars cov 2 strain, ( for those that don’t die from it). Basically everyone who had the vax has an identical antibody.

Not so for people infected with various wild sars cov 2 strains. They will have immunity to different proteins in the virus, and to slightly different strains of virus— a better, less narrow immunity. This is a tougher environment for the virus to evolve in. The virus has to acquire many mutations to evade many types of antibodies.

But now that several billion people have an identical antibody to a single protein, this will push the evolution of the virus to out maneuvre that common antibody everybody has by changing just the spike protein. The strains that do this will replace all other strains and will become enormously successful in everyone who was vaccinated.

If they were going to vaccinate anyone— which I don’t think they should have given the obviously shit safety record of this turd vax— it should have only been the most vulnerable people. This would be a disaster, even if the vax were safe. Which it aint.

https://www.amazon.com/ivermectin-horses/s?k=ivermectin+for+horses

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Has the virus been isolated?

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Vaccines don’t really prevent infection completely, they prevent disease— a clinical case of a viral illness

Good point, thanks.

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Most vaccines up until now have been of the innoculating kind which prevent infection. But now shills and MSM are trying to make you forget that, and say that vaccines have always been about reducing the symptoms of the illness.

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reducing the symptoms of the illness

I mean. They aren't wrong. Total and complete immunity from a pathogen is a reduction in symptoms. ... :) Just smile. It helps.

e; This is not to say these 3 mRNA bio-weapon shots cause either of the outcomes talked about. The outcome they cause is death by way of debilitation.

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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Be more fucking obvious abigail.

Vaccines give immunity you stupid cunt. With immunity you can't be an incidental carrier as your body will near immediately kill any possibility of the virus sustaining itself on your person.

Your entire post is literal pilpul coupled with false pedantry. It's so gay it mimics tel aviv.

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To who is jewish enough to have me blocked but still have the chutzpah to troll me:

literal pilpul and false pedantry.

Literal pilpul means that my comment was an actual analysis of the talmud, right? And if pedantry is an ostentatious, overly academic show of learning, my comment was not that, then: not truly pedantry. Pedantry would be if I was throwing around words like pilpul and pedantry with out understanding them in order to seem more intelligent than you. I don’t need to worry about such things happily.

Immunity has several meanings related to various levels of insusceptibility—absolute or otherwise— from harm or obligation in various contexts. But in this case it is the state of being highly resistant to a disease because of the formation of antibodies or of immune cells to a pathogen. It does not imply a total imperviousness to infection of a virus. Cells need to signal the immune system and the immune system needs time to react. This is not instantaneous.

With immunity you can't be an incidental carrier

You can be. This can be expressed as a probability function of the number of virions in your body and is not zero if the virus goes up your nose. Immunity is resistance due to antibodies and other immune cells and it is not absolute.

as your body will near immediately kill any possibility of the virus sustaining itself on your person.

near immediately? So not instantaneous?

Infection seems binary but immunologically it isn’t.

You should listen to me sweetie. I know more than you.

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Because it is for de-population of the worthless eaters. Jeez dude you should know that.

Covid doesn't exist.

How any of you still believe in the (((germ theory))) is beyond me.

The germ theory is based off of talmudic principles.