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In light of the unexpected early contributions to this new sub (Thank you!), I just want to clarify what I'm about and what I intend to do with this sub.

I made this sub to embrace my monstrosity -- that is, the disgust, fear and revulsion provoked in others when I reveal too much of my mind to them.

I think many others on Poal share this condition. And I thought with a place to discuss it we might be able to better know our true nature and embrace it with some dignity.

It's very hard to come up with content quickly, because I am grappling with these ideas and haven't mastered them yet. Every once in a while I reach a point where I can put into words an idea that makes sense. But since these ideas are "made to order", it's more than just a question of how much time I have for typing.

I appreciate your patience with this and really appreciate those of you who have jumped on this idea and started to produce your own content for this sub.


Now I'd like to respond to some of the initial reactions to being called monsters that I've noticed from you:

  • Yes we are monsters, and therefore I will be edgy and act like a supervillain.

This makes sense because the post I kicked off this sub with was kind of edgy. That got attention and was fun. And some of you are following in suit with edgy memes and sentiments. I'm glad people are having fun with this.

That said, this is more than just hehehe I am le bad. I would urge you also to consider the angle that, while we are human, somehow we have become separated from humanity. And it appears that this is more than just difficulty seeing eye-to-eye with others on ideology. Lots of people have bad or stupid ideas they can't help spouting in public. These are greeted with scorn, but a different kind -- that's stupid lad, grow up, etc -- whereas we are told we shouldn't be able to speak, we're . In some cases, we've lost friends as a result of being found out as monsters. How did this happen?

  • Yes we are monsters, but monsters are good

Maybe. I think it's an interesting idea. Especially because it seems like those of you who are saying it don't seem to think that non-monsters are bad, particularly. It seems like the sentiment is that non-monsters are like sheep, whereas monsters are the dutifully protective herd dogs -- we are interested in the good of the flock, and yet the flock perceives us as enemies because we have wits and teeth and often bark at them.

The only problem with this is how ineffective we appear to be at the moment. Monsters like us appear to me to be powerless -- at least powerless in the domain of our monsterdom (I'm sure many of you are successful and useful in other areas of life). On a whim we can be de-platformed or de-careered for daring to bark too loud, or too publicly. Maybe this sheep's world is run by wolves, who are the natural enemy of herd dogs.

  • Monstrosity is the result of honesty; Monsterhood is really a consequence of acknowledging the natural order of things

I think so. Then maybe it has a connection to Truth? But we have to remember that is subjective. Non-monsters think their understanding is the truth. Is it worthwhile to consider the possibility that they are right and we are wrong?


Thanks again for participating. I've enjoyed your thoughts and memes.

In light of the unexpected early contributions to this new sub (Thank you!), I just want to clarify what I'm about and what I intend to do with this sub. I made this sub to embrace my monstrosity -- that is, the disgust, fear and revulsion provoked in others when I reveal too much of my mind to them. I think many others on Poal share this condition. And I thought with a place to discuss it we might be able to better know our true nature and embrace it with some dignity. It's very hard to come up with content quickly, because I am grappling with these ideas and haven't mastered them yet. Every once in a while I reach a point where I can put into words an idea that makes sense. But since these ideas are "made to order", it's more than just a question of how much time I have for typing. I appreciate your patience with this and *really* appreciate those of you who have jumped on this idea and started to produce your own content for this sub. ---------------------- Now I'd like to respond to some of the initial reactions to being called monsters that I've noticed from you: * Yes we are monsters, and therefore I will be edgy and act like a supervillain. This makes sense because the post I kicked off this sub with was kind of edgy. That got attention and was fun. And some of you are following in suit with edgy memes and sentiments. I'm glad people are having fun with this. That said, this is more than just hehehe I am le bad. I would urge you also to consider the angle that, while we are human, somehow we have become separated from humanity. And it appears that this is more than just difficulty seeing eye-to-eye with others on ideology. Lots of people have bad or stupid ideas they can't help spouting in public. These are greeted with scorn, but a different kind -- that's stupid lad, grow up, etc -- whereas we are told we shouldn't be able to speak, we're [garbage humans](https://youtu.be/evh3wvVQuI8). In some cases, we've lost friends as a result of being found out as monsters. How did this happen? * Yes we are monsters, but monsters are good Maybe. I think it's an interesting idea. Especially because it seems like those of you who are saying it don't seem to think that non-monsters are bad, particularly. It seems like the sentiment is that non-monsters are like sheep, whereas monsters are the dutifully protective herd dogs -- we are interested in the good of the flock, and yet the flock perceives us as enemies because we have wits and teeth and often bark at them. The only problem with this is how ineffective we appear to be at the moment. Monsters like us appear to me to be powerless -- at least powerless in the domain of our monsterdom (I'm sure many of you are successful and useful in other areas of life). On a whim we can be de-platformed or de-careered for daring to bark too loud, or too publicly. Maybe this sheep's world is run by wolves, who are the natural enemy of herd dogs. * Monstrosity is the result of honesty; Monsterhood is really a consequence of acknowledging the natural order of things I think so. Then maybe it has a connection to Truth? But we have to remember that is subjective. Non-monsters think their understanding is the truth. Is it worthwhile to consider the possibility that they are right and we are wrong? ------------ Thanks again for participating. I've enjoyed your thoughts and memes.

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herd dogs

An apt parable. Here's a monstrous thought: Traditionally, like in a pastoral culture, what meat is a sheep dog typically fed?

[–] 0 pt

Don't know. I'm guessing you're gonna say mutton? Could it be possible the analogy falls apart at that stage? Doesn't really seem like we're going to "eat" the non-monsters in any metaphorical kind of way.

[–] 1 pt

Well what is this sub for if not exploring dark morality? Monsters gotta eat something. Need some protein for herding sheep, it's hard work.