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In light of the unexpected early contributions to this new sub (Thank you!), I just want to clarify what I'm about and what I intend to do with this sub.

I made this sub to embrace my monstrosity -- that is, the disgust, fear and revulsion provoked in others when I reveal too much of my mind to them.

I think many others on Poal share this condition. And I thought with a place to discuss it we might be able to better know our true nature and embrace it with some dignity.

It's very hard to come up with content quickly, because I am grappling with these ideas and haven't mastered them yet. Every once in a while I reach a point where I can put into words an idea that makes sense. But since these ideas are "made to order", it's more than just a question of how much time I have for typing.

I appreciate your patience with this and really appreciate those of you who have jumped on this idea and started to produce your own content for this sub.

Now I'd like to respond to some of the initial reactions to being called monsters that I've noticed from you:

  • Yes we are monsters, and therefore I will be edgy and act like a supervillain.

This makes sense because the post I kicked off this sub with was kind of edgy. That got attention and was fun. And some of you are following in suit with edgy memes and sentiments. I'm glad people are having fun with this.

That said, this is more than just hehehe I am le bad. I would urge you also to consider the angle that, while we are human, somehow we have become separated from humanity. And it appears that this is more than just difficulty seeing eye-to-eye with others on ideology. Lots of people have bad or stupid ideas they can't help spouting in public. These are greeted with scorn, but a different kind -- that's stupid lad, grow up, etc -- whereas we are told we shouldn't be able to speak, we're . In some cases, we've lost friends as a result of being found out as monsters. How did this happen?

  • Yes we are monsters, but monsters are good

Maybe. I think it's an interesting idea. Especially because it seems like those of you who are saying it don't seem to think that non-monsters are bad, particularly. It seems like the sentiment is that non-monsters are like sheep, whereas monsters are the dutifully protective herd dogs -- we are interested in the good of the flock, and yet the flock perceives us as enemies because we have wits and teeth and often bark at them.

The only problem with this is how ineffective we appear to be at the moment. Monsters like us appear to me to be powerless -- at least powerless in the domain of our monsterdom (I'm sure many of you are successful and useful in other areas of life). On a whim we can be de-platformed or de-careered for daring to bark too loud, or too publicly. Maybe this sheep's world is run by wolves, who are the natural enemy of herd dogs.

  • Monstrosity is the result of honesty; Monsterhood is really a consequence of acknowledging the natural order of things

I think so. Then maybe it has a connection to Truth? But we have to remember that is subjective. Non-monsters think their understanding is the truth. Is it worthwhile to consider the possibility that they are right and we are wrong?

Thanks again for participating. I've enjoyed your thoughts and memes.

In light of the unexpected early contributions to this new sub (Thank you!), I just want to clarify what I'm about and what I intend to do with this sub. I made this sub to embrace my monstrosity -- that is, the disgust, fear and revulsion provoked in others when I reveal too much of my mind to them. I think many others on Poal share this condition. And I thought with a place to discuss it we might be able to better know our true nature and embrace it with some dignity. It's very hard to come up with content quickly, because I am grappling with these ideas and haven't mastered them yet. Every once in a while I reach a point where I can put into words an idea that makes sense. But since these ideas are "made to order", it's more than just a question of how much time I have for typing. I appreciate your patience with this and *really* appreciate those of you who have jumped on this idea and started to produce your own content for this sub. ---------------------- Now I'd like to respond to some of the initial reactions to being called monsters that I've noticed from you: * Yes we are monsters, and therefore I will be edgy and act like a supervillain. This makes sense because the post I kicked off this sub with was kind of edgy. That got attention and was fun. And some of you are following in suit with edgy memes and sentiments. I'm glad people are having fun with this. That said, this is more than just hehehe I am le bad. I would urge you also to consider the angle that, while we are human, somehow we have become separated from humanity. And it appears that this is more than just difficulty seeing eye-to-eye with others on ideology. Lots of people have bad or stupid ideas they can't help spouting in public. These are greeted with scorn, but a different kind -- that's stupid lad, grow up, etc -- whereas we are told we shouldn't be able to speak, we're [garbage humans](https://youtu.be/evh3wvVQuI8). In some cases, we've lost friends as a result of being found out as monsters. How did this happen? * Yes we are monsters, but monsters are good Maybe. I think it's an interesting idea. Especially because it seems like those of you who are saying it don't seem to think that non-monsters are bad, particularly. It seems like the sentiment is that non-monsters are like sheep, whereas monsters are the dutifully protective herd dogs -- we are interested in the good of the flock, and yet the flock perceives us as enemies because we have wits and teeth and often bark at them. The only problem with this is how ineffective we appear to be at the moment. Monsters like us appear to me to be powerless -- at least powerless in the domain of our monsterdom (I'm sure many of you are successful and useful in other areas of life). On a whim we can be de-platformed or de-careered for daring to bark too loud, or too publicly. Maybe this sheep's world is run by wolves, who are the natural enemy of herd dogs. * Monstrosity is the result of honesty; Monsterhood is really a consequence of acknowledging the natural order of things I think so. Then maybe it has a connection to Truth? But we have to remember that is subjective. Non-monsters think their understanding is the truth. Is it worthwhile to consider the possibility that they are right and we are wrong? ------------ Thanks again for participating. I've enjoyed your thoughts and memes.

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[–] • 3 pts

I think that in the end, that what would label us monsters in todays society, would quite possibly be labeled as normal years and years ago. I can already tell you that all of us have a number of things in common... we were born in the wrong time period. We monsters are undoubtably men of principle. We operate on a completely different wave pattern than most people. We refuse to bow to the widely accepted norms. We refuse to embrace this manner of "reality" that has been crammed into every orifice. Many of our monsterous qualities could also be the result of years of programming and condition, and now that we have shaken the branches of liberty, that has inadvertenly crashed open the cage-pandoras box has been opened, and most people don't like whats in it, and that is us. I do think that it takes a certain brand of men to keep the invalids and degenerates in check. By doing so, do we reclaim some of our lost humanity or do we find out what it truly means to be human? Perhaps its the grey matter that makes us normal and the only rigid of humans, make up the true collective. Perhaps it all just boils down to intent. To know thyself is a true mark of knowledge, and I sometimes feel pity for those who refuse to take the time necessary, to ask themselves the tough questions, and come to terms with who and what they really are.

Im sure that this sub will help many find themselves in a way not previously thought of or discussed.

One thing is certain though. right is right, and wrong is wrong. We didnt change. The world did, and I think that the creator always holds his best men in reserve, rotating them throughout time and space, for the toughest and nastiest battles, when all other manner of men piss themselves.

[–] • 3 pts

You know an interesting thing happened to me yesterday, I stopped at a store on the way home from work to grab a pack of smokes. Well the person running the counter started talking about how divided America is today and that is the powerful keep us down. I said okay yeah I agree, but neither side of the mainstream is doing it for anything but money and anything you see on TV is working towards that goal, so then the person said "I can't believe poor people are identifying as republicans" I said "Well it wasn't all that long ago that the political party's were flipped" Guy shut down walked away and refused to accept that not all that long ago the roles were reversed what is that quote from 1984? We have always been at war with Oceana.

[–] • 3 pts

How could two people who are unsatisfied with the system not be able to share their theories on what's wrong? Why is it so one-sided, where one can both listen and speak, but the other can only listen or else become vile and unbearable?

[–] • 4 pts

Obviously because I am some kind of monster that thinks neither of the mainstream political parties has our interests at heart. How could I not see how benevolent the democrats are and how the only problem is the republicans? I must be some kind of racist or something.

[–] • 3 pts

Yes, you are. But why?

[–] • 2 pts

herd dogs

An apt parable. Here's a monstrous thought: Traditionally, like in a pastoral culture, what meat is a sheep dog typically fed?

[–] • 0 pt

Don't know. I'm guessing you're gonna say mutton? Could it be possible the analogy falls apart at that stage? Doesn't really seem like we're going to "eat" the non-monsters in any metaphorical kind of way.

[–] • 1 pt

Well what is this sub for if not exploring dark morality? Monsters gotta eat something. Need some protein for herding sheep, it's hard work.

[–] • 1 pt

this is more than just hehehe I am le bad.

I'm still wearing my cape and fake mustache!

[–] • 1 pt

I mean cartoon villain posting is pretty fun every now and then :)

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt (edited )

What's funny is that my girlfriend literally refers to me as a monster in a pet name way.

Especially because it seems like those of you who are saying it don't seem to think that non-monsters are bad, particularly. It seems like the sentiment is that non-monsters are like sheep, whereas monsters are the dutifully protective herd dogs -- we are interested in the good of the flock, and yet the flock perceives us as enemies because we have wits and teeth and often bark at them.

More than that as well. The farmer sprays an insecticide blend to deal with weeds. Before that, rapeseed was planted and other methods use. In order to have a good harvest, in order to thrive, the weeds must be choked out.

Same with animals in the wild. Lemmings throw themselves off cliffs in order to allow the tribe to survive. In animal packs, if a member cannot function civilly they are either beaten to death or get exiled, die an outcast and perish.

The issue is today in humanity, thos natural order has been disrupted.

People often ask me why I give a shit, why I care. It comes down to a simple reason: I am tired of having my life stolen by the weak.

  • Billions spent on welfare apes

  • billions spent on brown countries

  • billions spent to kike federal reserve

  • billions spent to give old fucks and fatties medicine that makes them worse

  • billions spent on supporting fucking alien invaders.

I am sick of my life, and future, literally being fucking STOLEN for weak kikes and brown ends.

If I protest, they steal this money. If I refuse, and fight, I am killed. All for niggers and kikes.

They say that just being a white man is a monster? Even though my work, 2 days of my life each week, prop up the world?

Well, in that case...

Its time for the monsters to take back their crown.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt
[–] • 2 pts

Couldnt agree more. This country, err, this world, has catered to the weak and lazy for so long, that we ourselves(collectively) have become weak and lazy.

Our children should be able to enjoy a world that is safe and that will reward hard work, while honoring sacrifice, not kneeling to the slightest bit of pressure. Are we MAD? FUCK YES, we are mad, but we have every right to be. At this point, pulling our demons to the front lines to take out the trash becomes more than a responsibility. It is a sacred duty, that cannot be carried out by the weak and stupid.

[–] • 1 pt

Is it worthwhile to consider the possibility that they are right and we are wrong?

I've already considered that possibility and concluded that they are wrong.