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When attacked, it's only natural to defend.

Call someone a hypocrite or a liar, and they'll claim the opposite. And they'll believe it.

Even if they are hypocrites, or liars.

They fight back against the label -- reflexively -- cowed to a defensive posture like a pathetic, cornered animal.

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Wouldn't it be better to give in?

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Consider the labels given to us:

Racist, evil, hateful, Monster.

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Are they wrong?

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Here we are... talking together in the shadows in our little underworld. Possessing of eldritch knowledge like crime statistics, demographic voting trends, and IQ differences among groups. Versed in a coded and constantly changing language of irony and memes. Making jokes that only we think are funny. Concealing our true nature to get by among the People of Light that inhabit the Overworld.

And whenever we reveal ourselves either by slip up or by own intention our vile, abominable nature is evident in the looks of horror and disgust on their faces. Their preoccupation with our existence alone drives them to put stupid little signs on their lawn as wards to keep us away. and on and on, so tiresomely.

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What are we really?

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I'm not quite sure what we are. It's not just the wignats -- people are called monster for less, and many of you, my fellow abominations, are not even wignats. The division doesn't seem to fall along religious lines -- for many Christians are fellow monsters and some monsters aren't Christian. It's not even being white -- I know some of us aren't white; and only a small portion of whites are. Perhaps it's a disregard for certain rules... though many stripes of otherwise "chaotic" people find us monstrous as well.

But I recognize you when I see you. And the People of Light certainly recognize us.

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Join Frosty

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You are a monster. You are an abomination. You are evil.

What they have said about you is true.

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And it feels good to finally admit it

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I am a monster. I don't know where it goes from here, but it is such a relief to finally be able to admit it. To come to grips with my true nature.

I don't think anything good ever came from hiding from the truth, anyway.

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A Final Word

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Now is the time and the place to declare yourself. Are you a monster? We are going to take note of who was with us when it counted, and who wasn't.

When attacked, it's only natural to defend. Call someone a hypocrite or a liar, and they'll claim the opposite. And they'll believe it. Even if they *are* hypocrites, or liars. They fight back against the label -- reflexively -- cowed to a defensive posture like a pathetic, cornered animal. 󠀠 #####Wouldn't it be better to give in? 󠀠 Consider the labels given to us: Racist, evil, hateful, *Monster*. 󠀠 #####Are they wrong? 󠀠󠀠 Here we are... talking together in the shadows in our little underworld. Possessing of eldritch knowledge like crime statistics, demographic voting trends, and IQ differences among groups. Versed in a coded and constantly changing language of irony and memes. Making jokes that only we think are funny. Concealing our true nature to get by among the People of Light that inhabit the Overworld. And whenever we reveal ourselves either by slip up or by own intention our vile, abominable nature is evident in the looks of horror and disgust on their faces. Their preoccupation with our existence alone drives them to put stupid little signs on their lawn as wards to keep us away. ["Hate has no home here"](https://pic8.co/sh/v1iZXb.jpeg) and on and on, so tiresomely. 󠀠 #####What are we really? 󠀠󠀠 󠀠 I'm not quite sure what *we* are. It's not just the wignats -- people are called *monster* for less, and many of you, my fellow abominations, are not even wignats. The division doesn't seem to fall along religious lines -- for many Christians are fellow monsters and some monsters aren't Christian. It's not even being white -- I know some of us aren't white; and only a small portion of whites are. Perhaps it's a disregard for certain rules... though many stripes of otherwise "chaotic" people find us monstrous as well. [Lol imagine how a "satanist" or "anarchist" would react if they knew your mind! These people think they're bad. And yet, they are not monsters.](#spoiler) But I recognize you when I see you. And the People of Light certainly recognize us. 󠀠 󠀠 #####Join Frosty 󠀠 You are a *monster.* You are an *abomination.* You are *evil.* What they have said about you is true. 󠀠 #####And it feels good to finally admit it 󠀠 **I** am a *monster.* I don't know where it goes from here, but it is such a relief to finally be able to admit it. To come to grips with my true nature. I don't think anything good ever came from hiding from the truth, anyway. 󠀠 #####A Final Word 󠀠 Now is the time and the place to declare yourself. Are you a monster? We are going to take note of who was with us when it counted, and who wasn't.

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[–] • 5 pts

Feel free to ping any vile, abominable underworld creatures I missed.

[–] • 5 pts

You can't mention more than 5 users at a time.

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So you got the ping but star through web did not? Can I mention them in another comment?

[–] • 5 pts (edited )

if usr_level > 30: mts = mts[:15]

elif usr_level > 20: mts = mts[:10]

else: mts = mts[:5]

[–] • 2 pts

I got two mentions, sweetheart.

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Enough people have told me I am it must be true.

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I'll go a step further, and while I acknowlege what I am, I also happen to know that the real monsters are not honest with themselves, and spend resources trying to conceal their traits. By traditional normie standards, I am a monster, but I think that I speak for most, when I say that it'll take monsters like us to put things back the way they were intended and not tuck tail and run at the first sign of trouble, or bother getting our feelings hurt by some brainwashed syncophant.

I'm in

[–] • 2 pts

it'll take monsters like us to put things back the way they were intended

now it's getting interesting

[–] • 3 pts

In the natural order of things, what really is “Good”? What is “Evil”? There is none, only truth and consequences.

We are the truth. We are the consequences. We are a demographic that cannot be pinned down, cannot be easily identified, and cannot be controlled. They knew this was inevitable, they knew that we would happen sooner or later. And it scares them, it scares the living bejeezus out of them.

Nature favors the strong, the quick, the wiley, and the resilient. We are all of these things, and more.

We are not monsters; we are the future.

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The future remains to be seen. For the time being, I'm content to call myself a monster, abomination, or evil doer.

As an aside, moral relativism (as I understand, the belief that "context matters" in morality) just does not interest me. I am a monster, you are a monster, we are monsters. And now that we can admit it, where do we go from here?

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Natural order.

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This is a beautiful sub! I'll join your team! and look at how pretty this is!

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Welcome to the dark side (let's be honest you were already a part of it), and thanks for sending a couple invites.

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I like it

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Welcome

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Shit I'm surprised you didnt ping me from the getup

I own

Or maybe you knew I was head choirboy in this "symphony of hate"

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We're gonna have to give you a different title. "Head choirboy" is a little less than optical.

But I agree, you have a bright future here.

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Hi im a 'monster' too.

Good is bad, and thats bad. Feels good to be bad, and thats bad too. So bad must be good then.

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We're reaching levels of "getting it" that shouldn't be possible.

In all serious, thinking this way gives me a serious feeling of catharsis. It's like a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders the moment I acknowledged I am bad.

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Ya. We're only bad in 'thier' eyes. And we're fucking awesome in each others eyes.

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Are you a monster? We are going to take note of who was with us when it counted, and who wasn't.

You want to give up the high ground when the other side is losing it, really?

Think not of "good and evil" but think only of what is best for our people.

Good and evil cannot enter into our minds, for what is good for our people is good, and that which is good for us is bad for our opponents. The heaven on earth we seek is another man's hell, and their heaven, our hell.

Morality or adherence to a high ground has no place in matters of survival, except as a tool to persuade others, and the victor will be the one who gives no ground, including the high ground. We should not be so quick to give up what we fought so long and hard to gain.

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You are a monster. You are an abomination. You are evil. What they have said about you is true.

If that was true why don't they kill or exile all of us?

The TRUTH is they need our tax money and protection. Protection from others like THEMSELVES specifically.

Because the truth is THEY are the monsters. The ones who consume human flesh through enslaving taxation.

They may inhabit the overworld, that just means the monsters have overrun the world. If you can survive long enough they will soon tear themselves apart.