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Basically, ie within a state - If 70% of the voters voted in the republican primary, then republicans in the state get 70% of the seats. In the primary itself, people would have ie 30 votes to give to individuals which would be the max available seats to win for the state. Then the top choices of these chosen, would be the subset for the actual seats given to that party, ie 70% * 30 = 21.

This would solve A LOT of MAJOR problems -

  1. ALL voters would get a representative vote THAT MATTERED. Red voters in deep blue territories would not be wasted votes anymore.
  2. No need for 'ranked choice voting' or others anymore. There is no reason to not just throw your true favorites a vote now.
  3. Creating new parties would be ALMOST INSTANTANEOUS. Simply people registering over to a new party before the primaries would basically automatically give them seats.
  4. Gerrymandering wouldn't affect anything anymore. No more a bunch of dem regions taking over repubs in a 51/49% result count, then one repub seat given in a 99/1% region.
  5. It's harder to rig the overall publicly viewable primary participation amounts.
Basically, ie within a state - If 70% of the voters voted in the republican primary, then republicans in the state get 70% of the seats. In the primary itself, people would have ie 30 votes to give to individuals which would be the max available seats to win for the state. Then the top choices of these chosen, would be the subset for the actual seats given to that party, ie 70% * 30 = 21. This would solve A LOT of MAJOR problems - 1. ALL voters would get a representative vote THAT MATTERED. Red voters in deep blue territories would not be wasted votes anymore. 2. No need for 'ranked choice voting' or others anymore. There is no reason to not just throw your true favorites a vote now. 3. Creating new parties would be ALMOST INSTANTANEOUS. Simply people registering over to a new party before the primaries would basically automatically give them seats. 4. Gerrymandering wouldn't affect anything anymore. No more a bunch of dem regions taking over repubs in a 51/49% result count, then one repub seat given in a 99/1% region. 5. It's harder to rig the overall publicly viewable primary participation amounts.

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Typically I'd ask you to post this in but since no one visits there with much regularity (and you took the time to write it and make edits) I'll let it slide.

;-)

As for your suggestions, what's to prevent one party or the other from pulling the same shenanigans that go on now? How easy would it be for people to register as Republicans (for example) just to fuck with the primary? Or how easy would it be for the vote counts themselves to be manipulated?

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The voter rolls show the names and addresses of every voter and who voted or not. So the general 'citizenry' itself could validate if registered voters were real or not.

Ultimately election rigging could still happen within the primary itself ie voting switching people's ballots mail in or electronic.

How easy would it be for people to register as Republicans (for example) just to fuck with the primary?

If they choose to switch over just to f with the internal primary, they'd ultimately be giving that party more total seats. The trade off wouldn't benefit those who would do this.

Or how easy would it be for the vote counts themselves to be manipulated?

My suggestions to fixing riggable vote counting is -

  • No Mail In Ballots, at all
  • ID required
  • Paper ballots, must be hand counted, electronic scan counters allowed as the double check
  • Counters chosen at random for a precinct. Similar to jury duty selection. All parties get to elect overseers.
  • No counting allowed until ALL precincts declare ready to count.
  • NO new ballots allowed in the counting room once counting starts.
  • No precincts allowed to report until all declare ready.
  • Precincts have EC style 'winner takes all potential votes instead of active votes' to stop over active precincts / regions getting more representation than under active.
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My suggestions to fixing riggable vote counting is -

No Mail In Ballots, at all ID required Paper ballots, must be hand counted, electronic scan counters allowed as the double check Counters chosen at random for a precinct. Similar to jury duty selection. All parties get to elect overseers. No counting allowed until ALL precincts declare ready to count. NO new ballots allowed in the counting room once counting starts. No precincts allowed to report until all declare ready. Precincts have EC style 'winner takes all potential votes instead of active votes' to stop over active precincts / regions getting more representation than under active.

That is exactly what I was looking for in a response. Nicely done.