>“I’ll just tell you that, I think that you look at it and say, how does an establishment become an establishment, and if we continue to elect the same leaders, we are going to keep doing the same thing that we are doing and we will not make much change,” he said. “And I think people fundamentally will like to see us make a change.” Yes the people would, but the deep state does not. What the people want seems to be irrelevant.