> what would have been a catastrophic result I'd say there has already been a catastrophic result. Some of the worst economic conditions in recent history, record breaking rise in transportation cost, living cost, food cost, lumber cost, etc. Inflation at insane levels, housing market being bought up like hot cakes, rising unemployment and lowering workforce participation, skyrocketing CPI.. Just to name a few things. If he's saying > Manchin saved us from total collapse then what it really means is > Manchin helped to maintain the status quo So fuck that guy, and fuck Billionaire (and probably child-eater) Sam Zell, too.