I disagree. Not only does society value discipline, it is entirely guided by white principles of get up every morning, get to your job and every meeting on time, be diligent, proficient and productive and don't complain. Our white species basically is protestant at a genetic level. There is a reason that communists are trying to insert the following ideas into our cultures: * There is no absolutely measurable truth, there is only YOUR lived expereince, your truth. * Being on time is white supremacy. * Accept everyone at whatever state they are in. * Science is white supremacy, native knowledge is science as well. The reason this is happening is because most people on that side of things cannot accept that speciation is true, that there are (in my opinion) at least 7 species of humans living side by side and every single one of them has it's own value systems that stem from their genetic design. You can see this everywhere. Back to my first point, white men invented everything precisely because we do have a whole range of values. What we need to start looking at is how to hone and shape these value systems. For example, we need to shape these existing protestant value systems in such a way that give our people purpose, a burning love of their own kind, a burning desire to win, a burning desire to excel at all sciences, a burning desire to master business and psychology. I would love to export rampant american militarism to all of our white nations as well, every white man should be prepared to train x amount of weeks per year in military tactics and be armed to the teeth. And so forth. Oh, also, we REALLY REALLY REALLY need to teach our people how to stop acting like losers. I can see some "loser think" in your statements. Loser think is basically alowing one of the subsystems in our brains to dominate our world view into thinking we have lost, there is no hope, burn it all down. I don't fully understand why it exists from an evolutionary perspective, but I can turn it on and off very much at will. You may need a bit of training to help you turn off that subsystem. If your winner subsystem was turned on you would post a bit differently. But anyway, you make a reasonable point, it just isn't the whole picture in my opinion.