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Guns won't do anything at this point except to get them and our rights taken away.

First, they're already working to take your rights away.

Second, who said anything about guns?

Absolutely show up with video cameras. Livestream but also record. Periodically send people away from the protest/march with a backup of whats recorded. Have them drop it off somewhere safe, and then have them return. People doing the courier/video backup work like this also pull double duty by being able to see who is being marched toward you (bussed in riot goons, or riot cops planning to kettle you so you have to walk straight through a mob like they did in charlottesville).

Be smart and protect your rights. At this point, protests do nothing except give them something to exploit.

I disagree whole heartedly. If they're gonna move as fast as they can without upsetting people, and they're gonna assault and go after people both physically and legally, then the only real solution is to give the state enough rope to hang itself.

Us going unarmed will lead to them using violence against us. That will accelerate and wake people up further.

At this point you can't avoid 1. assault, 2. persecution, 3. media/social demonization|labelling, 4. cancel culture/mobs, etc.

The only way past is through.

Learn from our enemies, the states playbook:

Push through a negative far and fast and hard enough, into its opposite.

Everything you want, a better future, a just and righteous america, all of it--everything you want is on the other side of fear.

They will tell you "it is entrapment!"

They will tell you "it is a false flag!"

They will tell you "the state only wants violence!"

They will tell you "they want to arrest you and label us all terrorists to take all your rights away".

And I'll tell you something: They're going to do all these things anyway.

Sometimes, as much as it sucks, you just gotta climb up on that cross, in order to show the world whats being done is wrong.

> Guns won't do anything at this point except to get them and our rights taken away. First, they're already working to take your rights away. Second, who said anything about guns? Absolutely show up with video cameras. Livestream but also record. Periodically send people away from the protest/march with a backup of whats recorded. Have them drop it off somewhere safe, and then have them return. People doing the courier/video backup work like this also pull double duty by being able to see who is being marched toward you (bussed in riot goons, or riot cops planning to kettle you so you have to walk straight through a mob like they did in charlottesville). > Be smart and protect your rights. At this point, protests do nothing except give them something to exploit. I disagree whole heartedly. If they're gonna move as fast as they can without upsetting people, and they're gonna assault and go after people both physically and legally, then the only real solution is to give the state enough rope to hang itself. Us going unarmed will lead to them using violence against us. That will accelerate and wake people up further. At this point you can't avoid 1. assault, 2. persecution, 3. media/social demonization|labelling, 4. cancel culture/mobs, etc. The only way past is through. Learn from our enemies, the states playbook: Push through a negative far and fast and hard enough, into its opposite. Everything you want, a better future, a just and righteous america, all of it--everything you want is on the other side of fear. They will tell you "it is entrapment!" They will tell you "it is a false flag!" They will tell you "the state only wants violence!" They will tell you "they want to arrest you and label us all terrorists to take all your rights away". And I'll tell you something: They're going to do all these things anyway. Sometimes, as much as it sucks, you just gotta climb up on that cross, in order to show the world whats being done is wrong.

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I don't know what to do. If we had a moral leader and discrete goals, I'd bear arms and march. But what is the point of just standing around at a protest? OK, maybe to put the fear of God in them, but to what end? We'd still need a leader. 1776 wasn't initiated by the rabble. We need a plan, a list of names to arrest. I'd love to see someone get a posse together and raid the ballots in one of the contested states and hand them to that dude who said he could look for kinetic artifacts. I've never been willing to fight before, and I won't ever be willing to fight again. If we don't do this now it's all over, all we'll have left is a doomsday timer. Hate to sound so dour/ doomerish but I don't see anyone stepping up. Trump had us there at the bank of the Rubicon and all he had to do is say "NOW" and we could have saved the Republic. Why the fuck did he ask people to come if he wasn't willing to get his hands dirty? Fool.

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I don't know what to do. If we had a moral leader and discrete goals, I

If you are capable of acting, you are a leader. Most leaders, or the idea of them, are manufactured anyway.

But what is the point of just standing around at a protest? OK, maybe to put the fear of God in them, but to what end?

The fear of god should be the ends. God or consequences.

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I'm capable of acting, but I'm not capable of leading men. It's best to know strong-points and that's not mine.

I haven't decided what to do.

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Normally what I would say is, the first thing I want you to do is edit your comment so it isn't misunderstood or taken out of context.

The second thing I will tell you is this:

Make signs. Yep. signs. Make em on cardboard like a god damn homeless person. Speech is still the most powerful weapon, the arena of ideas.

And then read this (aeinstein.org)