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Outfit was bought from the old (family) owners because they were old and their kids were into other things. MFW, new boss not like the old boss situation. Untrustworthy, wouldn't buy his shitcoin. :)

Yeterday we're told whole thing is supposed to be moved to a place in Bavaria, roughly 350 km from our home, where I live with my handicapped wife. They're trying to fuck us by offering the same job at the new location, hoping we'll sign their new contract.

They have another thing coming. It's lawyer time.

When I asked about the normal compensation for shituations like this, was met by deer in headlights behavior. Then I asked him why he was so surprised by my question. Because the least that's coming to me is half a month's pay for every year I've worked there (39 years).

Through bush telegraph I know some of the back story. Mr. Boss man got involved in family business. Family patriarch and Boss man get along well, I guess. Grandson of patriarch starts working there, after studying specifically for this kind of enterprise. Mr. Boss man alienates grandson and said grandson leaves. (No hard feelings, I'm sure)

Patriarch has a crippling accident (Riding an E-quad at 90 years old will do that to you but he visited us and he didn't look his age by a huge margin)

Patriarch doesn't want to be involved in anything business related after seeing the grim reaper up close and personal.

Grandson takes over. Payback time.

Grandson terminates lease of factory premises.

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You are here.

Outfit was bought from the old (family) owners because they were old and their kids were into other things. MFW, new boss not like the old boss situation. Untrustworthy, wouldn't buy his shitcoin. :) Yeterday we're told whole thing is supposed to be moved to a place in Bavaria, roughly 350 km from our home, where I live with my handicapped wife. They're trying to fuck us by offering the same job at the new location, hoping we'll sign their new contract. They have another thing coming. It's lawyer time. When I asked about the normal compensation for shituations like this, was met by deer in headlights behavior. Then I asked him why he was so surprised by my question. Because the least that's coming to me is half a month's pay for every year I've worked there (39 years). Through bush telegraph I know some of the back story. Mr. Boss man got involved in family business. Family patriarch and Boss man get along well, I guess. Grandson of patriarch starts working there, after studying specifically for this kind of enterprise. Mr. Boss man alienates grandson and said grandson leaves. (No hard feelings, I'm sure) Patriarch has a crippling accident (Riding an E-quad at 90 years old will do that to you but he visited us and he didn't look his age by a huge margin) Patriarch doesn't want to be involved in anything business related after seeing the grim reaper up close and personal. Grandson takes over. Payback time. Grandson terminates lease of factory premises. ??? You are here.
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I'm so sorry to hear that.

What would you like to do now?

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The obvious choice is stealing old ladies handbags. Tried that once but they're so sweet and usually poor, I leave more in there than I had hoped to take.

Guess it's going to have to be full on nigger murder as a distraction until I find a real job.

Talked to a co-worker in the same boat today and we came up with reverse stripping, where we get paid to put our clothes back on.

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You're German, I feel like you should start a company grinding lens's for optical telescopes.

Or maybe you could start painting, like an Austrian

Regardless, the world is your oyster, and I think you will succeed in any endeavor you choose to pursue.

[Edit: except poetry. no germans allowed]

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There were some great German poets. Why, just two days ago I read this poem from the great prophet Mike Krüger (RIP, PBUH): "Wenn mich einer nervt, zähle ich bis acht, dann kriegt er in die Schnauze, bis er lacht!"

https://youtu.be/24Wf1OdHx2s

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Agree. And they one day for no reason webrustler was elected.

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Oh, so Grandson is back in charge and Bossman is no longer bossman?

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AFAIK, grandson is in charge of the building where bossman's company lives for historical reasons. And bossman incl. company got kicked out. New premises were found and now it seems he wants to consolidate, at least by proximity. Looks desperate. Bottom line, we're effed by no fault of our own. He'll likely fail.

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We should all get fired and make a company together. I'm sure some interests overlap.

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It would probably be a clusterfuck of biblical proportions but boy, would the journey be memorable.

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Or, and hear me out... It could be awesome.

You're probably right though.

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Leaders lead….

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We should all get fired and make a company together.

It would be amazing, although probably like herding cats

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If the cats like you, they will follow.

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What sort of business?

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>the least that's coming to me is half a month's pay for every year I've worked there

Is this some kind of law or something? It does not make sense to me. When I let people go I let them go. I don't give out any gigantic bonus.

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IANAL and it's a German thing, so had Grok translate:

The Purpose of a Severance Payment (Abfindung) The main purpose of a severance payment is to provide financial compensation for the loss of your job. It is designed to help the employee bridge the gap caused by the loss of future earnings, the transition into unemployment, and the associated uncertainties.Main Purposes from the Employee’s Perspective

Compensation for lost income: Your job and regular paycheck disappear. The severance payment helps cushion the financial impact—for example, during your job search, retraining, or until you start a new position. Recognition of years of service: Longer tenure is often “rewarded” with higher payments (e.g., formulas like 0.5–1 month’s salary per year of employment). Social buffer: It helps cover costs such as moving, further education, or bridging gaps in social security coverage.

Purpose from the Employer’s Perspective Employers rarely pay severance out of pure generosity. They do so for practical business reasons:Creating legal certainty: The employer wants to end the employment relationship quickly and cleanly. A wrongful termination lawsuit can be expensive and time-consuming (possible reinstatement plus back pay). Avoiding litigation risk: Many terminations have formal flaws or issues with the social selection process. A severance payment essentially “buys” the employee’s agreement not to sue. Maintaining workplace peace: Especially during mass layoffs or restructurings (such as relocating a site), severance helps prevent unrest among remaining employees.

Legal Background in Germany There is no automatic legal entitlement to a severance payment under German law. German labor law primarily protects the existence of the employment relationship (dismissal protection), not the financial loss itself. Severance is usually:Voluntary / negotiated (the most common case), Regulated in a social plan (§ 112 BetrVG), Or offered under § 1a KSchG (when the employer explicitly includes the offer in a dismissal for operational reasons).

In summary: A severance payment is a compromise tool. For the employee, it serves as a bridge to the next phase of life. For the employer, it is a “door opener” for a clean separation. Without it, dismissal protection would often be much more rigid—with it, greater flexibility is created for both sides.

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Yes, it's the same way here in the US. But there is no requirement in most situations for it so you are not entitled. It sounds to me like your company pretty much is under new ownership and they want to move it to another town and you don't want to go with them. So they let you go. It does not sound like you are entitled to anything to me. It does not sound like you have any basis for any sort of lawsuit either. You can't expect the company to stay where you want them for your convenience.

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Correct, no entitlement, something I meanwhile found out while researching.

The company might want to avoid a long drawn out lawsuit procedure but I didn't even suggest that, I asked nicely like "How do we arrange things, so I get a nice severance payment?". We're still on speaking terms. The guy said something noncommittal along the lines of he's open to a reasonable sum.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hot for any lawyer action but also not a fan of leaving money on the table. I've spent most of my life at that place and always gave 110 percent. I'm not ashamed to try.

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The same job for 39 years? Wow. I've never stayed anywhere longer than 3-4 years.

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Same company, not same position therein. Call me old fashioned, but that used to be the norm here.