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I read a by that made me think. As you may know, I'm an idiot. If I'm forced to think that should mean something. You know what I thought about? Poal's culture. Specifically, the fate of our friendly, community atmosphere and how we use the voting buttons. Did I make a bunch of subs in one day to tease Hans? Yes. However, if he posts in those subs (which he now mods with me) it's (mostly) topical.

I noticed that he has a lot of downvotes. None of those have ever been me. Not even once. Not even a comment. In fact, I'll be going through the subs I share with Hans and asking people who downvoted Hans for an explanation. To my knowledge, he has only spammed once and that has been clearly labeled.

I used to think "Hans should be more like . He has a lot of the same ideas, but he's quiet about it." I've come to realize that I was asking for him to self-censor. Hans is hostile, refuses to explain himself and cannot accept criticism. This doesn't mean he doesn't deserve free speech. Imagine if this site gets millions of users. We'll have thousands of Hans's. Will we downvote them all no matter where they post? How can we justify them not downvoting anything they dislike?

To be clear, I will still complain about Hans. I will still bother him. I will still feel joy about those bothering him. I will not let Hans be an excuse to change Poal's culture. Neither should any of you.

I read a [post ](https://poal.co/s/Transvestigation/63283)by @Ivan that made me think. As you may know, I'm an idiot. If I'm forced to think that should mean something. You know what I thought about? Poal's culture. Specifically, the fate of our friendly, community atmosphere and how we use the voting buttons. Did I make a bunch of subs in one day to tease Hans? Yes. However, if he posts in those subs (which he now mods with me) it's (mostly) topical. I noticed that he has a lot of downvotes. None of those have ever been me. Not even once. Not even a comment. In fact, I'll be going through the subs I share with Hans and asking people who downvoted Hans for an explanation. To my knowledge, he has only spammed [s/Transvestigation ](https://poal.co/s/Transvestigation/hot)once and that has been clearly labeled. I used to think "Hans should be more like @smokratez. He has a lot of the same ideas, but he's quiet about it." I've come to realize that I was asking for him to self-censor. Hans is hostile, refuses to explain himself and cannot accept criticism. This doesn't mean he doesn't deserve free speech. Imagine if this site gets millions of users. We'll have thousands of Hans's. Will we downvote them all no matter where they post? How can we justify them not downvoting anything they dislike? To be clear, I will still complain about Hans. I will still bother him. I will still feel joy about those bothering him. I will not let Hans be an excuse to change Poal's culture. Neither should any of you.

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I have minimal, at best, problems with hans. That being said, I've never once down voted him, pinged him, or PM'd him. I call him my fan club though, because my interests appear to conflict with is. Rarely do I make a post, especially in space or astronomy related science, where he doesn't add either a personal attack against me or nonsensical, "this is bullshit" comment. Though tiresome, I simply don't care and have never responded. Such troll-like behavior is best ignored in my humble opinion.

As far as I'm concerned, hans is as welcome on Poal as anyone. As with many things on both Voat and now Poal, I simply ignore the things I personally dislike. He has had an impact on some, however. For instance, I received a PM from someone who knew me on Voat asking me if Poal was worth him bothering to settle here. I explained to him that we were better than this and asked him to stick around. I hope he did, but I don't know for certain. My point is, we are a free speech site and hans is as free as any of us to utilize that privilege. It is the continual, what can only be described as mindless spam, much of which is ad spam begging for hits on his YT channels, that turns off many. The folks he's turning off also have a right to use this site, unimpeded by what many consider spam, without being forced to endure the dramatic madness.

I'll leave it there. Defend him if you must, but realize he does have an impact on how others view our site. If he stays in his subs, so those not interested can move on and not have their Poal experience sullied, great. If he intends to provoke simply to get his points across, which the vast majority disagree with ... then he is the problem, not us.

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I received a PM from someone who knew me on Voat asking me if Poal was worth him bothering to settle here. I explained to him that we were better than this and asked him to stick around.

Wow. Some of that could have been me messing with Hans though. Others were bothered with me and believed my transvestigator routine.

much of which is ad spam begging for hits on his YT channels, that turns off many.

That's why I started using PoalTube links for his videos and many others. I guess I have him to thank for that.

Defend him if you must, but realize he does have an impact on how others view our site.

I have no joy in defending him. I just know it is right and that I was weakening Poal.

I thank you for your wise input, but I must chastise you for perpetuating avian stereotypes.

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LOL - avian stereotypes.

I don't have completely clean hands in this, BTW. I did find it entertaining to egg hans on in mini-chat, so I'm guilty of that. That's just my personalty though and why I enjoy the chat function stuff some days.

Great idea to demonetize it ... thanks for that effort. I'll try my best to let this rest, but don't hit me if I slip - LOL. I'm an old man and sometimes I need a little levity in my life.

Take care.