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Shapiro said “Jesus was just a guy trying to throw a revolution against the Roman Empire, and that miracles he did were didn’t happen.”

It made me think, is the ultimate enemy of Christianity the literal same exact cabal we are fighting now? The literal same cabal he was primarily fighting is the exact same one we’re fighting now. Same exact one.

Was / is Christianity really about the political cabal? And not so much about angels and god? And satan was a euphemism for the cabal and the general forces behind them?

Why doesn’t anyone research Christ’s political side. I mean his greatest martyr was to the Roman Empire no? Not Satan.

“He died for your sins.” What sins? Not standing up to the Roman Empire? He died because of the RE. So sins would have to be related to the RE and what we should have done to keep him from dieing.

The implications of Christianity really being about this multi-millennial cabal would be huge.

Shapiro said “Jesus was just a guy trying to throw a revolution against the Roman Empire, and that miracles he did were didn’t happen.” It made me think, is the ultimate enemy of Christianity the literal same exact cabal we are fighting now? The literal same cabal he was primarily fighting is the exact same one we’re fighting now. Same exact one. Was / is Christianity really about the political cabal? And not so much about angels and god? And satan was a euphemism for the cabal and the general forces behind them? Why doesn’t anyone research Christ’s political side. I mean his greatest martyr was to the Roman Empire no? Not Satan. “He died for your sins.” What sins? Not standing up to the Roman Empire? He died because of the RE. So sins would have to be related to the RE and what we should have done to keep him from dieing. The implications of Christianity really being about this multi-millennial cabal would be huge.

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Your thought process isn't wrong but you're falling for jewry and pilpul.

He wasn't rebelling against the Roman empire. He was rebelling against the Jewish leaders. He didn't fight the Roman's he fought the pharisees.

Jesus WAS political. He saw the evil in the jews and their insidious ways. He warned people and taught them a moral path instead. They used their influence to have him murdered. His death cult persisted, and they have continued the war ever since.

Jews have manipulated and infiltrated that to different degrees throughout history as well. Thats why you have periods where strong men realized what was happening and fought back, or where Christianity is a tool of the jew. The byzantine crusades are a prime example.

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Sanhedrin was Christ's particular target. His disciple Stephen spells it out Acts 7. They worship Molech.

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And Repham. I was just in Acts 7 three or four days ago.

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It’s hard to believe before Christianity Jews existed, had their bible but no one else. Everyone else was just religionless and going to hell?

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Jews are not Hebrews, Israelites, nor Judahites. Jesus called then out for their false claims. He revealed their scam. That's why they murdered him.

Jesus straight up said they are not Judahites and that they are the children of Satan. And that their temple is the synagogue of Satan.

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Jews existed before Christianity of course they did. Christianity is a rebel death cult that followed a charismatic leader who taught them a moral path. You don't have to believe Jesus was a son of a God or a magic being to belive in the morality of his teachings.

The old testament is not Christianity. IT was added to the ideology by jews to blend and control them. That is jewry. Read the new testament and especially the apocryphal texts they omitted from it from a secular historical point of view and you will get a better picture of why jews hate Christians so much.

You don't believe Jesus is Lord God, Creator of the universe. So was he a liar or a lunatic? Because he certainly did things that only God can do, received worship, was bodily killed and resurrected, and claimed to be the emmanuel messiah - the anointed of God.

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Shapiro, regardless of what he says, is a jew.

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It's both. Exact same enemy.

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Okay Ben, "Romans", sure Ben.

28 When they heard these things, all in the synagogue were filled with wrath. 29 And they rose up and drove him out of the town and brought him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built, so that they could throw him down the cliff.

Luke 4:28-29 NKJV

Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called Passover. And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might kill Him, for they feared the people.

Luke 22:1-2 NKJV

9 He went on from there and entered their synagogue. 10 And a man was there with a withered hand. And they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse him. 11 He said to them, “Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” 13 Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And the man stretched it out, and it was restored, healthy like the other. 14 But the Pharisees went out and conspired against him, how to destroy him.

Matt 12:9-14 ESV

8 Jesus said to him, “Get up, take up your bed, and walk.” 9 And at once the man was healed, and he took up his bed and walked. Now that day was the Sabbath. 10 So the Jews said to the man who had been healed, “It is the Sabbath, and it is not lawful for you to take up your bed.” 11 But he answered them, “The man who healed me, that man said to me, ‘Take up your bed, and walk.’” 12 They asked him, “Who is the man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13 Now the man who had been healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, as there was a crowd in the place. 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you.” 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him. 16 And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.” 18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 5:8-18 ESV

34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. 35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are offspring of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me because my word finds no place in you. 38 I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father.” 39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.

John 8:34-45 ESV

15 And they came to Jerusalem. And he entered the temple and began to drive out those who sold and those who bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. 16 And he would not allow anyone to carry anything through the temple. 17 And he was teaching them and saying to them, “Is it not written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a den of robbers.” 18 And the chief priests and the scribes heard it and were seeking a way to destroy him, for they feared him, because all the crowd was astonished at his teaching.

Mark 11:15-18 ESV

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone;[d] this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? 43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44 And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.” 45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46 And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.

Matt 21:42-46

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Shapiro said “Jesus was just a guy trying to throw a revolution against the Roman Empire, and that miracles he did were didn’t happen.”

This is ENTIRELY wrong. Also shapiro is a kike. Why are you caring what a kike says?

what sins

sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like.

Or another list: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips

We are all dead in our sins, and have failed to be holy, as God is holy. You need a savior, or you'll receive the wages of sin = death.