Socratic method is great, but it only works if they are willing to participate, and they're not. My mom claims to be always busy even though she's retired--yeah, what bullshit.
Many do not.
Regardless of the approach they have to want to know. Many people love the comfort of the blue pill. Many cannot process they side with evil.
It's easier to sell anal lube to the Amish than convince people that they cause their own problems.
Just had a thought that never occured to me, what if you let them talk about what they believe in first, hear them out, give them a chance and be as intellectually charitable as possible and find out their weak points before trying to dry force a ribbed red pill suppository
You have to understand the insidious way in which they have been programmed. What the mainstream media peddles can't stand up to scrutiny or debate, so the ones programmed by it are programmed to never engage in a discussion. On the internet you see them say that they don't want to give a platform to ideas that are beyond the pale. In person they don't phrase it that way but the effect is the same. On top of it they don't know what it means to engage someone in a healthy discussion. They know is what they see on tv. For example from the Colbert Report, where he says some stupid quip or platitude and an audience of trained seals claps, as if the argument is over and he won, or something similar from a sitcom. That's their idea of having a discussion. To give a more concrete example, during the Trump presidency I'd hear constant jabs my way on the level of orange man bad. If I ignored the jabs they would just continue, and if I engaged them on the topic suddenly they'd lose interest. More recently with Ukraine they simply lost their mind. They are consuming the Ghost of Kiev-tier propaganda and believe all of it. It's all driven by emotion. If you've ever tried to use reason and logic when the other side is driven by emotion, then you know it's pointless to even try.
Yeah they dont care about facts they care about being 'right' and fitting in. These people would believe their boys are girls if it appeased the mainstream narrative, and stepping against any of it means no longer believing niel degrasse tyson is the smartest man alive, which ruins all the references in the media they consume. Its this entire network of self reinforcing degeneracy where they think they are morally superior because they clap when some wimp comes out and tells everyone he takes dick in the bum. Going against the current in one single issue has a knock on effect and makes everything unravel and most people simply arent intellectually prepared to cope with that level of upheaval
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