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So let's get this straight: Donestsk and Luhansk have demanded to not be part of Ukraine for nearly a decade now. This is parlty because they've never historically been part of Ukraine and ethnically Russian, and just got lumped into Ukraine for administrative purposes during the Soviet era. They might be willing to live with this if Ukraine was some semblance of a functioning country, but since their government is a kleptocracy and pretending that they remotely function like western democracies is a joke the two terrirtories have wanted out. Kyiv has used violence to prevent them from fully breaking away. Russia decides, you know what fuck that. You can't use violence to prevent them from leaving your non-functioning criminal country, we'll stand up for them.

Some how this is spun as "Russian aggression."

Honk honk.

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That border separating eastern Ukraine from Russia was a modern ussr border redraw for bureaucractic reasons and no one saw ussr breaking up.

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The whole of Ukraine was an administrative region. Never was a real separate anything.

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In modern terms, yes. But there was a Middle Ages kingdom of the princes of Kyiv who ruled an ethnically and linguistically distinct area, that just for centuries was passed around and broken up between various other countries, in modern terms Russia, Poland, Romania, Lithuania, and Czechoslovakia. The cor region of the historic Kyivian realm was always acknowledged as distinct (even when divided among conquerers) region due to linguistic and ethnic homogeny.