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DeSantis is calling for a Constitutional Convention https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/unnamed-53.png

https://unitedtochange.org/p/sign-the-petition-join-millions-of-americans-in-calling-for-a-convention-of-states

This a Trap!

Do NOT fall for this. We have two ways to change the Constitution. The first is with specific amendments that must be voted on individually etc... The second way is by calling a Constitutional Convention. This has never happened. The second a Constitutional Convention is convened THE ENTIRE CONSTITUTION BECOMES NULL AND VOID! All of it goes right out the window. A room full of politicians then make a brand new constitution from scratch and We The People have little to no power to influence the process. They write a Constitution and we live with it or we rebel.

So in our current political climate that is dominated by the Deep State, Soros money and Zuck money, Controlled opposition, RINOS, the uni-party and flat out traitors... What type of Constitution do you think they draft if we put them in a room and close the door?

Do you think we end up with MORE freedom or LESS freedom?

I think these questions might as well be rhetorical. Good by 2A, replaced by some hunting regs and 'protection of the public good' clause. Good by First amendment, replaced by hate speech laws. Good by freedom of religion, see hate speech laws again. Term limits? Ha. Political funding reform? get real. Higher taxes? Count on it... to the point of communism. Controls on Big-Tech? keep dreaming. How about Big-tech being granted constitutional authority to censor, remember 1A is gone?

This is the nightmare in store for us if we let them call a Constitutional Convention.

Our current politicians cannot be trusted to write a new constitution from scratch!

DeSantis is calling for a Constitutional Convention https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/unnamed-53.png https://unitedtochange.org/p/sign-the-petition-join-millions-of-americans-in-calling-for-a-convention-of-states # This a Trap! Do NOT fall for this. We have two ways to change the Constitution. The first is with specific amendments that must be voted on individually etc... The second way is by calling a Constitutional Convention. This has never happened. The second a Constitutional Convention is convened THE ENTIRE CONSTITUTION BECOMES NULL AND VOID! All of it goes right out the window. A room full of politicians then make a brand new constitution from scratch and We The People have little to no power to influence the process. They write a Constitution and we live with it or we rebel. So in our current political climate that is dominated by the Deep State, Soros money and Zuck money, Controlled opposition, RINOS, the uni-party and flat out traitors... What type of Constitution do you think they draft if we put them in a room and close the door? Do you think we end up with MORE freedom or LESS freedom? I think these questions might as well be rhetorical. Good by 2A, replaced by some hunting regs and 'protection of the public good' clause. Good by First amendment, replaced by hate speech laws. Good by freedom of religion, see hate speech laws again. Term limits? Ha. Political funding reform? get real. Higher taxes? Count on it... to the point of communism. Controls on Big-Tech? keep dreaming. How about Big-tech being granted constitutional authority to censor, remember 1A is gone? This is the nightmare in store for us if we let them call a Constitutional Convention. # Our current politicians cannot be trusted to write a new constitution from scratch!

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America does not need a new Constitution. It needs politicians, judges, prosecutors, and bureaucrats who follow the existing Constitution.

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Winner. Every single issue today is already addressed by law or constitution. The issue isn't the constitution. The issue is internal corruption including police, judges, and the entire span of state and federal government.

And, of course, the forever push to move us away from the republic and into democracy where everyone's vote equality matters.

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Agreed. This is exactly my point. Any Constitution drafted today would be drafted by traitors. We need to fix the traitor problem first.

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Our current Constitution is routinely ignored anyway

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America needs an originalist interpretation of the existing constitution to be enforced by the executive, legislative and judicial branches. Many problems would go away if this were the case.

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The second a Constitutional Convention is convened THE ENTIRE CONSTITUTION BECOMES NULL AND VOID!

It doesn't work like that... Where the hell did you hear this?

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Where the hell did you hear this?

Read the fucking Constitution! All that matters is Article. V.

Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Once the convention is called and convened they can propose any and all amendments they want. Those amendments get voted on right away AT THE CONVENTION ... "or by Conventions in three fourths thereof" The people go into a room and for all intents and purposes writ a new constitution with no oversight from anyone outside the room.

When a amendment is proposed in the normal way it only becomes law when "ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States" This protection DOES NOT EXIST IN A CONVENTION!

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Says jack shit about suspending the Constitution. So, again, where the hell did you learn this?

And honestly, you linked the damn exact text, and if you can read that and still say what you just said ... I'm guessing you went to public schools.

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I am going to explain it slowly. Try to keep up.

Normal amendment: A specific change is proposed. That specific change must be voted on and passed by 'two thirds of both Houses' and THEN it needs to be 'ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States'

Constitutional Convention: Sates send representatives to the convention. Once the convention starts those representatives can propose ANY change and then can themselves vote and pass ANY change. This is a 'Republican' process where those individuals are empowered with authority. They go into a room, make changes, and that is is... we live with what they give us.

Can you see the difference?

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No. You're so wrong. A state led constitutional convention does not mean the constitution is null and void my man. The states adopt specific amendments and the delegets from the states vote on those and only those ammendments.

The process is pretty well spelled out in a book called The Liberty Amendments. There is no chance for a run away convention when what the state legislatiors draw up and define prior to sending the articles that would ammend our constitution.

You're getting some bad information

You might be a jew shill cuck fuck.

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Bullshit.

The Supreme Law of the Land is the Constitution and contained within that Constitution is an amendment process. If that process is circumvented by a ConCon, it will render the Constitution null and void.

If lawmakers and politicians can't abide by the rule of law that we have, they won't abide by a new rule of law the moment it suits them to ignore it. And when they ignore it, there won't be precedent to defend the rule of law.

The whole purpose of a con-con is to destroy the 2A and put limits on gun ownership, travel, and free speech.

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Hey fucktard go read Artical 5 section 2 of the US constition and get back to me you dumb fucking nigger kike ass hat.

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Read the fucking Constitution! All that matters is Article. V.

Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Once the convention is called and convened they can propose any and all amendments they want. Those amendments get voted on right away AT THE CONVENTION ... "or by Conventions in three fourths thereof" The people go into a room and for all intents and purposes writ a new constitution with no oversight from anyone outside the room.

When a amendment is proposed in the normal way it only becomes law when "ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States" This protection DOES NOT EXIST IN A CONVENTION!

Normal amendment: A specific change is proposed. That specific change must be voted on and passed by 'two thirds of both Houses' and THEN it needs to be 'ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States'

Constitutional Convention: Sates send representatives to the convention. Once the convention starts those representatives can propose ANY change and then can themselves vote and pass ANY change. This is a 'Republican' process where those individuals are empowered with authority. They go into a room, make changes, and that is is... we live with what they give us.

Can you see the difference?

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Fuck you, nigger. I know what it says and dipships like you have faith that our politicians will work with the people's interests in mind. They won't.

Shall not be infringed will be turned into "reasonable restrictions on guns". Shall make no law will be turned into "no hate speech". And states will be allowed impose border restrictions for the jabpass.

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book called The Liberty Amendments.

Is that book part of the Constitution? It is literally just opinion. All that matters is Article. V.

Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Once the convention is called and convened they can propose any and all amendments they want. Those amendments get voted on right away AT THE CONVENTION ... "or by Conventions in three fourths thereof" The people go into a room and for all intents and purposes writ a new constitution with no oversight from anyone outside the room.

With a amendment is proposed inthe normal way it only becomes law when "ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States" This protection DOES NOT EXIST IN A CONVENTION!

You're getting some bad information

You might be a jew shill cuck fuck.

Projection much?

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Nope. Calling it like I see it jew baby.

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Here is how they plan on tricking you into thinking this is 'Safe'. The constitution lays out the following two mechanisms:

Normal amendment: A specific change is proposed. That specific change must be voted on and passed by 'two thirds of both Houses' and THEN it needs to be 'ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States'

Constitutional Convention: Sates send representatives to the convention. Once the convention starts those representatives can propose ANY change and then can themselves vote and pass ANY change. This is a 'Republican' process where those individuals are empowered with authority. They go into a room, make changes, and that is is... we live with what they give us.

They want to convince us that they can form a 'Limited Convention' which would protect the Constitution from being rewritten or massively edited. The petition states (my emphasis):

I support the Convention of States Project; a national effort to call a convention under Article V of the United States Constitution, restricted to proposing amendments that will impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit its power and jurisdiction, and impose term limits on its officials and members of Congress.

The concept is that when 'Legislatures of two thirds of the several States' call for a convention they do it with stipulations limiting the scope of the Convention...

The problem is that a 'Limited Convention' is not law and is not in Article V right now. If the states have state level laws saying 'our representative at the Convention can only propose or vote on amendments that will impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit its power and jurisdiction, and impose term limits on its officials and members of Congress' ...this would mean literally nothing to Federal law. In the eyes of our constitution such limits would not apply.

A state rep at the convention could still propose and vote for ANY amendment. They might be breaking a STATE law if they do, but the resulting amendment would still be constitutionally valid. This would be similar to unfaithful electoral college votes. Nothing stops them except state laws which in practice are toothless