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My two go-to sites for seeds:

anyone have other sites the like?

My two go-to sites for seeds: [St Clare Seeds](https://www.stclareseeds.com/garden-help/) [Jung Seed](https://www.jungseed.com/) anyone have other sites the like?

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I wasn't thinking for SHTF, but just for spring planting. we still have snow on the ground, but I like to order now so I can start some seeds indoors.

I do agree, ~2 year life span on the seeds. you can get lucky and some will last longer, but usually the germination rate drops quite a bit after the first year.