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So I've always been very critical of every chemical we put in our bodies. Because of that I've always taken prescriptions with a large grain of salt. I think we shouldn't play fast and lose with what we put in ourselves.

Many people have caught on to the valid criticism of the medical institutions and recognized rightly that they aren't perfect or infallible. But people's sense of binary thinking takes over and they think they must support herbal remedies, and support them to the point that no critical thinking or actual thought is ever needed again.

I just got some free herbal tea packs with one of these meal kit boxes. One of them was peppermint, one of them was ginger. I saw that they were both caffine free (I don't even do caffeine because I believe in keeping my circadian rhythm working like it should), but I noticed a lack of ingredient listing. But if it is just a little ginger stew, I could go for that. Sounds nice. I do some digging. Not even the product on their website bothers to list ingredients. But I found it on Amazon and Amazon makes people list out ingredients because they don't want to get sued. It does have medicinals. So I start looking these drugs up. Turns out that several of them are contra-indicated against a lot of diabetic medication, and some of them can even cause a miscarriage because they induce menstruation even when you shouldn't be.

So I'm neither diabetic or pregnant. I can't even menstruate if I wanted to.. yet. But imagine. You have diabetes, you are taking your medicine like you should, then you drink a free tea that has unlisted drugs in it that interact with your medication. Reckless.

Either: Herbals are real drugs as potent as commercial pharmaceuticals and a viable alternative and worthy of careful consideration and study before taking, and not something fun to try because its in a tea; Or, herbals are entirely ineffectual, play medicine, and something we can get into as part of health entertainment. Pick one.

More on the gray area there were a lot of anti-inflammatories. I can see where that's generally good, but that should be listed because maybe not everyone needs an anti-inflammatory. If you are claiming your product is medicinal, why not be responsible and list out your shit.

So I've always been very critical of every chemical we put in our bodies. Because of that I've always taken prescriptions with a large grain of salt. I think we shouldn't play fast and lose with what we put in ourselves. Many people have caught on to the valid criticism of the medical institutions and recognized rightly that they aren't perfect or infallible. But people's sense of binary thinking takes over and they think they must support herbal remedies, and support them to the point that no critical thinking or actual thought is ever needed again. I just got some free herbal tea packs with one of these meal kit boxes. One of them was peppermint, one of them was ginger. I saw that they were both caffine free (I don't even do caffeine because I believe in keeping my circadian rhythm working like it should), but I noticed a lack of ingredient listing. But if it is just a little ginger stew, I could go for that. Sounds nice. I do some digging. Not even the product on their website bothers to list ingredients. But I found it on Amazon and Amazon makes people list out ingredients because they don't want to get sued. It does have medicinals. So I start looking these drugs up. Turns out that several of them are contra-indicated against a lot of diabetic medication, and some of them can even cause a miscarriage because they induce menstruation even when you shouldn't be. So I'm neither diabetic or pregnant. I can't even menstruate if I wanted to.. yet. But imagine. You have diabetes, you are taking your medicine like you should, then you drink a free tea that has unlisted drugs in it that interact with your medication. Reckless. Either: Herbals are real drugs as potent as commercial pharmaceuticals and a viable alternative and worthy of careful consideration and study before taking, and not something fun to try because its in a tea; Or, herbals are entirely ineffectual, play medicine, and something we can get into as part of health entertainment. Pick one. More on the gray area there were a lot of anti-inflammatories. I can see where that's generally good, but that should be listed because maybe not everyone needs an anti-inflammatory. If you are claiming your product is medicinal, why not be responsible and list out your shit.

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There's a huge difference between "obsessed" and "knowledgeable".

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The difference is pharma uses linguistic games to suggest their side effects are of little to no consequence. A lot of homeopathic solutions don't (usually) have big side effects. The catch here is the kinds of things you're referring to, which aren't good for people with insulin problems or pregnant people, aren't listed here so I can't further explain ways in which you may misunderstand. But maybe there was some lapse of judgment or critical thinking that you're getting to the bottom of for all I know.

I don't really have any skin in this game, but I feel pretty confident you're overselling here. A lot of this whole area and especially the popular arguments are pretty nuanced.

As unfortunate as it really is, this is one of the good arguments for minarchism over anarchism that I'm keen to entertain.

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Yeah, I go to the co-op, but just for the bulk dried goods. They have one of those hippy dippy aisles full of snake oil. So stupid.

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Well, one of them works. Clove oil is like magic for tooth pain. Tastes like shit, but the pain is gone immediately.

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“Questioning marketing narratives“ “Ability to think critically and conduct research using available resources” You sir, are a very dangerous person to some people.

I think it needs to be pointed out that you are illustrating a failure of government regulation and the necessity of decapitating the FDA.

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Herbal alterative vs big jew pharma? Herbal all the way. Only big jew pharma would be against herbal alternatives. They can't soak enough shekels from you if it is the complete cure.

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False dichotomy. How about we don't apply blind trust to anything.

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Like we have been doing to vaccines?

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Talk about complex. It's complex.