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(Unvaccinated's Fault)

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You have not considered the possibility of Antibody-dependent Enhancement or Viral Immune Escape.

Firstly, I appreciate your calm and kind approach to the topic. Some dudes on here just fly off the handle like libtards REEEE-ing because someone said men shouldn't play contact sports with women (even if transgender).

To the point: I have reviewed those ideas/topics and I have rejected them because they are red herrings dreamed up by antivaxxers which literally do not exist for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. As fact, the exact opposite of ADE is occurring among the vaccinated and almost all deaths, hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.+(see footnote)

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

97 percent of COVID-19-related deaths were in unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated people

95 percent of reported hospitalizations with COVID-19 as the primary diagnosis/cause of admission were in unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated people

94 percent of reported COVID-19 cases were in unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated people.

https://www.media.pa.gov/pages/health-details.aspx?newsid=1595

An even better dashboard exists for tracking this data:

https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination-outcomes.aspx

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/antibody-dependent-enhancement-in-vaccines

We may be lucky enough that ADE or VIE will not randomly manifest. I hope so. But it's something to look out for.

At this point, it is not possible. We are too far along for them to be a possible outcome.

The human trials long ruled this out as a possibility. If they were possibilities or were going to occur, they would have occurred in the first 2 months after administration during the Phase II follow-ups (it did not occur). We are now near 18 months post human trial follow-ups. Keep in mind that these follow-ups are scheduled 2-3 years. We are almost done with complete follow-ups.

+What I see happen is some antivaxxer will do some researching for hours and hours and find something that they feel is a gotcha. Then they write an article about it or send it to their favorite antivaxxer blogger/writer. Then it gets posted. Then the folks which have no business discussing science tweet, comment, share it. This is how these ideas get put out there in the ether.

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