There's no sense in arguing with people like this. They see or hear something about an adjacent "jew" and will never consider letting it go: if the person in question does something vaguely positive, it's because "yeah, but jews let that happen as part of their plan" and if it's vaguely negative, "see, I told you! he was a jew all along!" There's no winning with them. They don't care about other secretive orgs that have a definitely sperparate structure from noses, they don't care to understand or observe alternative reasons for allying with noses and they sure as shit will never believe "jews" could ever redeem themselves and fight for positive forces. These are the same people that can't let themselves think regular ass jewish people in Israel are just typically helpless citizen s the government also conspires against. In reality, this is the kind of rhetoric employed by people who feel so unbelievably helpless that they've convinced themselves, just as "jews" desire, that "jews" are omnipotent and infinitely powerful. The reality is most "jews", even the ones that aren't average NPCs like most proles, are pretty fucking retarded and the only ones that ever really manage to redeem jews at any length are the Ashkenazi, who are just German "jews" who got repeatedly raped by Scythians thousands of years ago.