The best way to shut them down is simply to shun anyone that advocates violence or lawlessness. Thats how you know whos real and who isnt.
Great advice! ...but you see there is a problem.
The glowfags will always try either to immediately talk about it or ease into it with alarmism and talks of "necessary evil."
yep... if I just stick to your golden rule I'm in the clear. Zero tolerance for calls to violence. Call out people who talk about "necessary evil" or "unpleasant realities" got it.
It is not that legitimately defending your communities, family, property, and self against illegal lawfare, replacement, or against attacks from mobs (like antifa) is wrong
hold up... that kind of sounds like you are 'easing into it' a little there.
unnecessary talk of these things is stupid, pointless, and only opens you up to unnecessary risks.
Your emphasis, not mine. Stressing 'unnecessary' implies that some times there is 'necessary talk of these things'... yep definitely seems like you are easing into it there. Was this a bad joke that was way too subtle for me?
...no the problem is that even you yourself fail your own simple test. You are clearly a glowie by your own rules. If I shun anyone that uses slightly hyperbolic language or anyone that expresses dissatisfaction with the state of the world and states a desire to change it... well that's how we get echo chambers and fake conversations. While your advice for identifying glowies is 'safe' in that it will shield you from entrapment operations, it is impractical because it is an onerous restriction on speech. In practical terms your advice equates to 'Do not participate.'
... hum. Subtle easing into talks of violence, overall message of 'sit back and do nothing' ... yep. You definitely glow. I'm out.
Your emphasis, not mine. Stressing 'unnecessary' implies that some times there is 'necessary talk of these things'... yep definitely seems like you are easing into it there. Was this a bad joke that was way too subtle for me?
No I'm saying just because the stasi condemn you for it, and also try to ease you into it, doesn't mean any given message is untrue. Who the messenger is, is unimportant, compared to the message. And there message is useless, disorganized, and alienating violence, used to paint you, and everyones beliefs as the boogieman, to the general public.
I specifically added that to clarify what I'm saying, and for a very good reason: If I don't say it, shills come in, and use this as an opportunity to divide on the basis of things like "lol, stay peaceful and be conquered faggots!", or to encourage it, or disparage the peaceful as "shills trying to keep people complicit."
It's important to call for peace, while clarifying that calling for peace is not an invitation to be a pushover, though thats what shills also sometimes do.
What they want is for you to think its a binary choice, so you do nothing.
When the truth is there is a vast array of options between peace and violence. For example theres a big chart of some 100+ methods of nonviolent resistance/protect/etc floating around out there on the net if you care to look for it.
But you'd never know that if you allow them to stick you on the horns of a dilemma, either labeling you yourself a glowfag for advocating peace, or a glowfag for advocating the opposite, and in doing, making you paranoid and keep you from unifying with your neighbors, your community, and everyone else who believes the same as us.
Which is why the glowfag meme is primarily about enforcing complicity and atomization/division by inducing paranoia.
You will see it brought up. Every. Single Time. On any thread or message that is remotely "dangerous" to the establishment. Almost without fail. Thats how you gauge what they don't want you to be engaged in.
I'm saying be peaceful wherever possible an call for peace wherever possible. Or if you prefer, be wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove.
Or speak softly and carry a big stick.
No one who is sober, and serious needs to talk about that sort of shit, to "talk shop" as it were. If you organize at all, organize in strength for peace and avoid shitbags, windbags, shittalkers, weekend warriors who just want excuses to drink beer and fuck around in the woods, wannabe militiamen, people who just want to "be part of something" or play follow the leader, and any of the other self-involved useless types.
Talk is cheap.
Unity through peace, strength through unity.
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